UChicago stats

UChicago confirmed stats shared by Dean of Admissions at admitted student reception:

ED1 and EA – 9 %
RD – 2 %
Admitted from deferred pool – 0.5 %
Total admit rate – 8 %

Interesting fact given – 10% of Yale Law School entering class in the fall of 2017 is from UChicago.

Some reports that total app were down by a couple thousand this year. If true this will increase yield especially with ED1 and ED2 .

How can a decline in applications increase yield? Yield is enrolled divided by accepted; applications don’t enter into it. If the suggestion is that fewer applications means that those who applied cared more . . . that sounds like b.s. to me.

Yield is going to zoom, for 10-1/2 reasons. Reason ##1-10: They accepted about 60% of the class ED, which means 100% (or 99%) yield on that portion of the class, and another 12% or so EA, which typically yields ~ 80%. When you start out like that, you beat last year’s numbers even if your RD yield is much worse. Reason 1/2: It seems like there is a lot less coordination this year among acceptances by top colleges. There seems to be a lot of kids who were very competitive applicants and were only accepted to one or two of the most competitive colleges. That means that those colleges will tend to have higher yields, because they won’t be competing with many others.

Applications will go down again next year. Who wants to apply RD to a college with a 2% RD admission rate?

Yield is for sure up because ED1 and ED2 are guaranteed acceptances. This was also noted at the event. Example.

20 acceptances and 5 acceptances is 25 percent yield.
18 acceptances and 6 acceptances is 30 percent yield.

Also the RD of UChicago is similar to HYP and others.

Chicago RD Amit rate is worse than any school but it will not attact the large numbers of applicants that willy nilly throw in an app to the Ivies even when their admit rate in the RD round is dismal. So if the RD apps tank next year Chicago’s admit rate will go up.
I expect a huge marketing push this year

Harvard and Stanford for sure do not have higher RD. They cannot. Harvard total admit is 5 % , but they take 14/15 % EA.

Admit rate will not go up because of ED’s and EA at UChicago. EA stays at least for next year.

Interesting thought on the move to ED for UChicago. As mentioned above, there was a blip in RD when the city of Chicago was negatively in the news years ago.

Smart way to negate the news and increase yield rates when historical data could possibly point to this as a down year.

If just 2,500 kids move from the EA/RD pile to the ED1 Ed2 pile and there is no uptick in the RD pool. The admit rate will go up next year. They have to bring in more RD apps to remain a player in this beauty contest.

@Chrchill Harvard RD 1118 out of 33,033 (3.4%)
Princeton RD 1120 out of 26,053 (4.3%)
Stanford REA/RD 2050 out of 44,073 (4.6%)
Yale RD 1401 out of 27,814 (5.0%)

So far Chicago’s RD is definitely the lowest. Will know more when Stanford breaks their numbers up. Why would somebody apply RD to Chicago when their chances are that bad?

Their chances RD are bad at all of the elite schools.

Why would anybody apply anywhere to any of the elites. Numbers bad everywhere. You have to maximize chances broadly and apply widely.

@denydenzig not really. Look at MIT. Much lower general RD. Does not make a dent at all for them. Yield and selectivity are they.

^I think you just answered your own question, Chrchill.

Not aware I was asking a question.

Stanford no longer reports early admit rates. [-(

@denydenzig fuzzy math there, if 2500 move from RD to ED then the total number of apps remains the same and therefore the admit rate remains the same. :stuck_out_tongue: :wink: Edit: Actually admit rate would decrease as yield went up.

@CU123 Sorry, lazy writing on my part. What I meant to say was that even if the ED pool increases by 2,500 because potential EA/RD applicants move to ED if the EA/RD pool shrinks beyond the 2,500 number of course (because the RD applicants feel they are just wasting their time), your admit rate would go up.

Remember you need a lot of people who are willing to throw themselves into the RD pool for the overall admit rate to be small.

True and no matter how you cut it its always admits divided by total apps.