UCLA chances...please help!

<p>alright everyone, i am going to be a senior and the following are my stats:
weighted gpa: 4.5
UC gpa: 4.0
SAT I: 2160
History SAT II: 750
MATH IIC: 700 (will retake...most likely will score 750 or abovE)</p>

<p>the school i attend is in the top 30 high schools according to newsweek (not sure if that matters at all)</p>

<p>also, i have held major roles in theatre productions and have been a member the ASB for three years.</p>

<p>whoever reads this please tell me of my chances of not only getting into the school but the chances of becoming a regents scholar as well. thanks alot</p>

<p>mbe320:</p>

<p>UCLA: Match</p>

<p>Sounds like you're good. Just try not to do what I did and get lazy senior year. I had my 4.0 through junior year like you, then I started slackin off and now it's that much harder to start studying again. Haha. Do have fun though, senior year was great for me at least.</p>

<p>mbe320:</p>

<p>UCLA: Match
Regents scholar: Reach</p>

<p>I say reach because your GPA and SAT scores are pretty much below average for Regents. The average incoming UC GPA is 4.1, you've got a 4.0 (from a good high school) but still, some people have 4.0 unweighted = very high UC GPA. The SAT score is also on the low side. I'm not sure what it will be with the new SAT but for the old SAT, most of the Regents scholars had 1500+. I THINK they take into account other factors like extracurriculars as well... for a Regents scholar (well, for admissions anyway) your extracurriculars are "average" meaning they're not bad at all and probably good enough to get admitted, but you don't stand out from the pile.</p>

<p>ucla: SAFETY</p>

<p>thanks everyone for your feedback. i also had a few more questions if anyone else might be able to help me out.</p>

<p>i would like to know what my chances are of receiving a trustee or presidential scholarship from USC. now with a 4.5 gpa that puts me in the top 5 percent of my class, probably 20th out of a class of 650. also, i took my sats twice and the following is my best breakdown:
CR: 750
Math: 780
Writing: 700 (hopefully will be higher once handgraded scores come in)
my other ECs still stand.</p>

<p>for SAT IIs with UCs, do they take the best two, if you happened to take three? (assuming, of course, i took the new SAT I)</p>

<p>also, i know that UCLA has a better reputation than USC, but i am confused about the whole quarter system (UCLA) and semester system (USC). is one particularly better than the other and if so, why? Also, which school would be best for majoring in polisci and getting better grades with the least amount of trouble. </p>

<p>thanks for all the help and i hope to hear from everyone soon.</p>

<p>again, my stats from above still stand, but i also forgot to mention that i spent my summer as an edmondson research fellow at the USC dept. of pathology. i heard that is supposed to help your chances of getting a scholarship at USC because it is relatively difficult to get. if anyone knows whether or not that will help me out, please tell me. thanks again.</p>

<p>hey. this is not the psychic hotline.</p>

<p>We don't know how the adcom's and scholarship committees work.</p>

<p>Sometimes I think people just like to post on here to get their ego's stroked.</p>

<p>I like to say this often: Statistically, your chances of getting into UCLA are 50%. i.e you get in, or you don't.</p>

<p>So pony up the $60 (or whatever it costs these days) and just apply.
Hopefully you're not cocky enough to just apply to 2 schools.</p>

<p>"for SAT IIs with UCs, do they take the best two, if you happened to take three?"</p>

<p>nothing happens, they just count your best two. </p>

<p>"Also, which school would be best for majoring in polisci and getting better grades with the least amount of trouble. "</p>

<p>what are you looking for out of your poli sci major? if you just asked which school has a better poli sci department, that is UCLA. if you asked which school is where you can get better grades in general, perhaps USC (private schools tend to have more grade inflation than the sink-or-swim publics). since you mention getting a better grade... if you're looking for law schools... well, you might be able to earn a better GPA at USC, but if you were able to earn that same good GPA at UCLA (and provided LSAT scores are the same), you'd be better off being a UCLA applicant because law schools like to accept from more "prestigious" schools. </p>

<p>btw, are you retaking your SAT I? if you can attain a SAT I single-seating score that is similar to your highest scores that you listed, then you'll probably have a better shot at regents.</p>

<p>"Sometimes I think people just like to post on here to get their ego's stroked." lol perhaps.</p>

<p>"more "prestigious" schools. "</p>

<p>this is bound to get some heat from themegastud</p>

<p>law school admissions is primarily based on 2 factors: LSAT and GPA. the LSAT is standardized of course, but the GPA isn't. so how can we tell apart two different 3.5 GPAs? if you go to the law school forum here on CC, you'll realize that law schools only care about prestige of colleges and not their difficulty. and while all the prestigious colleges send many students to law schools by default since their students are strong in the first place, it is also common practice to pick the student from the "better" school between two academically equivalent students. if not, then what's the point of going to UC's? to put it to an analogy you may be more familiar with, imagine two students with equal LSAT scores, both have 3.5 GPAs, one went to UCSD and the other San Diego State. if all other things equal, who would you rather admit?</p>

<p>now, i realize the disparity between UCLA and USC is of course not as wide as the disparity between (most) UC's and cal states. but i contend UCLA is still held in a slightly higher regard than USC. if not, then UCLA law applicants are just better in quality. </p>

<p>number of UCLA and USC alums represented at the law schools that publish their data:</p>

<p>yale: <a href="http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html&lt;/a>
harvard: <a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php&lt;/a>
virginia: <a href="http://www.law.virginia.edu/home2002/html/prospectives/class07.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.law.virginia.edu/home2002/html/prospectives/class07.htm&lt;/a>
georgetown: <a href="http://www.law.georgetown.edu/admissions/jd_profile.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.law.georgetown.edu/admissions/jd_profile.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>As you can see, UCLA is more represented than USC in all of the above lists. Remember, it's not that UCLA necessarily has more students than USC when it comes to law school admissions; I mean UCSD has more students than USC but has poor law school representation.</p>

<p>(I used UCLA and USC as examples but one could do a similar study with two other schools - take your pick - and come up with similar results. Just remember that prestige doesn't necessarily correlate with rankings; Washington University (among others) has really poor law school placement despite being ranked high, while Berkeley has strong law school placement despite being ranked a little lower. But most of us would think that Berkeley is more "prestigious" than Washington University. The only exceptions I can think of is BYU for "overrepresented" and MIT/CalTech for "underrepresented")</p>

<p>hah. those published class rosters are so skewed.</p>

<p>yale and harvard accept waaaay too many of its own students.</p>

<p>kevMD, </p>

<p>you're right, law schools tend to like to accept more from their own school. but that's why i tried to show data across several law schools to calibrate the strength of each undergrad school in terms of enrollment into the law schools.</p>

<p>hey guys, thanks for all the information, especially you, kfc4u. those figures help give me a much better idea of where i want to go to college. i was trying to find the same figures for the school of law at NYU, but i wasnt able to. by any chance, do you have the link that might give me the undergrad schools represented at NYU law? thanks alot.</p>