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EECE is a specialization track of EE that you declare anytime after completing the lower-division general EE curriculum. It's not a separate major. If you're admitted as an EE major, then you just have to fulfill the major requirements. :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>2) Exactly how do you rate the people in your CS classes? Uber-geeky, somewhat nerdy, jocks who have no clue wth they are doing there, or something else?</p>
<p>3) You mentioned job recruting on campus. Any chance for us CS undergrads?</p>
<p>4) How would you compare UCLA and UCB's CS program?</p>
<p>5) If I do end up at UCLA, can I hit you up for a research chance?
1. The technical support group is a cluster of three related upper-division courses in a field outside CS, either in the HSSEAS or in the CL&S. It was intended by the CS Department to encourage us to specialize and apply our knowledge beyond CS, thus making our degrees (more) valuable during this period of outsourcing.</p>
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<li><p>29% uber-geeky, 40% somewhat nerdy, 30% well-rounded types, >1% jocks who have no clue what they are doing here (and leave later on).</p></li>
<li><p>Of course. About 40% of recruiters on campus look for UCLA CS majors.</p></li>
<li><p>To be honest I don't know much about UCB's CS program, besides the fact that freshmen enter as "pre-Computer Science" into the CL&S and then have to make a GPA cutoff in the prerequisites to get into the actual CS major during their junior year. That's partially why EECS freshman admissions are so competitive at UCB -- unlike CS, once you're in, you're in for good. CS 61 at UCB is like CS 32 at UCLA but for an entire semester. Feel the burn!</p></li>
<li><p>That's outside my sphere of influence. :rolleyes:</p></li>
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<p>do job recruiters look for CS&E undergrads as well?</p>
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You'd better believe it. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>"The technical support group is a cluster of three related upper-division courses in a field outside CS, either in the HSSEAS or in the CL&S. It was intended by the CS Department to encourage us to specialize and apply our knowledge beyond CS, thus making our degrees (more) valuable during this period of outsourcing."</p>
<p>So I can basically take classes in and be proficient at a second "thing"? Like I do CS while adding on Economics classes. Will there be a note of this on your diploma?</p>
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Right... There won't be a note of this on your diploma, though. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>So right.. Your opinion: useless in the real world and your mind, useful only in your mind, or really useful?</p>
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Useful only in my mind. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>do recruiters look more for CS or EE?</p>
<p>i've applied for this NSA program where they pay for my tuition and everything, except i have to go work for them afterwards all the way on the east coast. do you think this is a good idea? i love the west coast but then if i had the chance to work for a company here in california i'd prefer that... is there a high chance i'd be unemployed after graduating?</p>
<p>Ok something unrelated. Do you work anywhere? (and where). And do most people in your class work?</p>
<p>Flopsy what is your personal identification number?</p>
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[quote=j0b0sapi3n] i've applied for this NSA program where they pay for my tuition and everything, except i have to go work for them afterwards all the way on the east coast. do you think this is a good idea? i love the west coast but then if i had the chance to work for a company here in california i'd prefer that... is there a high chance i'd be unemployed after graduating?
I can't answer this question because I've never heard of this NSA work program; you'll likely get more in-state job offers that will be more feasible/palatable than any preliminary East-coast job offers. <a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-03-20T163503Z_01_N20258421_RTRUKOC_0_US-ECONOMY-JOBS.xml&archived=False%5B/url%5D">http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-03-20T163503Z_01_N20258421_RTRUKOC_0_US-ECONOMY-JOBS.xml&archived=False</a></p>
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No, I don't work anywhere... I will be working over the summer, though. Most people in my class do not work -- at least, not during the academic year. :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>Hey Flopsy,</p>
<p>I was admitted to bioengineering. I plan to apply to med school, how hard is it to get a 3.5 ish GPA? Also, if I don't make med school, whats the outlook on a career in bioengineering? Thanks for your time.</p>
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<p>I was admitted to bioengineering. I plan to apply to med school, how hard is it to get a 3.5 ish GPA? Also, if I don't make med school, whats the outlook on a career in bioengineering? Thanks for your time.
Keeping a 3.50 in Bioengineering is extremely difficult... since the median Bioengineering GPA is about 2.70, you have to be roughly within the top 10% of the class to pull it off. Furthermore, Bioengineering has the highest concentration of pre-meds in the HSSEAS so the classes are doubly competitive. Also, there aren't very many recuiters specifically hiring Bioengineering grads here right now, from keeping track of which companies recruit at the job fairs. It's probably because the UCLA Bioengineering program is still relatively fresh and has yet to develop a reputation of its own.</p>
<p>Hmmm...well all I really want is a good chance at getting a job after I graduate. I was admitted to Berkeley too, under EECS (regent's candidate), and I received the regent's for UCLA also. I have options open to me, but I'm not sure which is the right path to take. I dont think EECS leads to med school either :P what would you do? O.o thanks :)</p>
<p>sicks06, most students who visit both cal and ucla have a strong preference for one over the other. Make the visits, talk to current students, you'll know which is right for you. Both are top schools and you'll have good career prospects from either. And both share similar disadvantages as far as large class size, importance of grad students vs undergrad, etc.</p>
<p>Also, I'd take into account where you'd want to go if you change out of engineering. The stats are bleak on EECS; according at a trade newspaper
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According to most statistics, engineering schools graduate between one-third and one-half of the students who start out in engineering programs. Electrical engineering is particularly hard hit, with approximately 20,000 students graduating out of the 60,000 who enter EE programs each year (see <a href="http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20020712S0041)%5B/url%5D%5B/quote%5DI'm">http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20020712S0041)
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I'm</a> not saying you're going to be one of them, but with odds like that its worth at least thinking about where you'd want to be if you decide to change.</p>
<p>i just checked US News' best undergraduate engineering programs, and UCLA is 23 right above UCSD while UCB is 3rd. i thought UCLA's engineering was not far off from UCB's?</p>
<p>I am interested in Industrial Engineering/Operations Research/Systems Engineering--I signed up as a Computer Science and Engineering Major (I think?), how hard is it to switch and could I switch into something similar to IEOR? </p>
<p>-What percentage of UCLA engineering students were also admitted to Berkeley?</p>