<p>Really? I thought people just check off the ol' box, pay the 50 more dollars, and that's why UCLA and Cal acceptance rates are so low, say many.</p>
<p>Yes it's easy to apply, but some will not simply because they fear the competition. It may not be true for your high school, but I had quite a few classmates who were like that.</p>
<p>Here are the APPLICANT stats (not projected) for Fall 2006 to compare</p>
<p>Isn't it great that Berkeley has a less intelligent crowd, yet a diploma from here is valued more highly across this earth? I mean, compared to LA, it easier here to outsmart people to do well, and get a more respected red mark, right???</p>
<p>I would say a few points difference in SAT and GPA wouldn't be statistically significant, unless you are being sarcastic in some way.</p>
<p>From unlimitedx's link: Mean total score of the SAT Reasoning (Critical Reading + Math) at Berkeley is 1224? Seems highly apocryphal.</p>
<p>How so? If you compare Fall 2005 against Fall 2006 with all the UCs, there is a fairly consistent drop in that score for each campus.</p>
<p>I think it is important to keep in mind that these are the averages for the applicants, not the actual admits. Since many are rejected, the averages for the admits will probably be higher (I think the average SAT (M+V) of Berkeley admits was around 1360 last year, but I do not have concrete data at the moment.).</p>
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From unlimitedx's link: Mean total score of the SAT Reasoning (Critical Reading + Math) at Berkeley is 1224? Seems highly apocryphal.
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<p>Right, because UCOP has good reason to lie about UC statistics...:rolleyes:</p>
<p>Just walking around Westwood and Berkeley leaves little doulbt about which has the "superior student body", unless some of those bodies in Westwood don't belong to students. ;)</p>
<p>1224 for applicants</p>
<p>and 1360 for admits. That's a pretty big difference.</p>
<p>There are over 40,000 applicants, so I wouldn't be surprised of the difference since about ~25% gets admitted.</p>
<p>I apologize. I misconstrued the 1224 for admits when they are applicants.</p>
<p>UCLA itself has released the actual stats of the incoming 2006 Class. Predictions are only just that: Predictions. Cal will still have a better class, just like it did in the past many years.</p>
<p>"The average admitted applicant to UCLA for Fall 2006 had a weighted GPA (a GPA that includes all extra grade points for honors or AP coursework) of 4.27, an unweighted GPA (no extra points) of 3.82, an SAT Reasoning Test score of 2013,* SAT Subject scores (we use highest scores from any two of five subject areas) of 734 and 682, and 19 semesters of honors/AP course work completed between 10th and 12th grades."</p>
<p>This is from their site.</p>
<p>Here's the source:
<a href="http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/Top10/FR_Not_Adm.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/Top10/FR_Not_Adm.htm</a></p>
<p>Also, remember that the people who actually matriculate is different than the admit class. THe UC's are used as safties a lot for the best students in California.</p>
<p>Can we all just agree that both schools are going to have a pretty darn good class?</p>