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<p>Options A and B are UNLV and UNR?</p>
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<p>Sounds like it. Nevada is the only state that I know of that has two lousy “best schools.” However, she should have other options…some privates, other OOS publics that would have given merit.</p>
<p>Going to a UC as an OOS premed is a total waste of money.</p>
<p>Of course the education isn’t as specific towards the individual. I understand that, but that is how a public school is. Why, then, are the UC’s still ranked so well and are considered so prestigious in many different aspects? This is not an argument, but a real question. I’m concerned that I have been admitted to a school that is not only a huge investment but also not a good school??? That’s what I’m getting out of this discussion.</p>
<p>And I’m also curious about how UCLA would not get a student decent opportunities. I know plenty of graduates who went on to very stable and reliable jobs. My initial concern was that yes, the school would be too expensive for the education, but NOT that I would be attending a school that didn’t give me opportunities. </p>
<p>I am a UCLA alum and would not let my son consider applying there from out of state…</p>
<p>I have 3 words for you: U S C …</p>
<p>just sayin…</p>
<p>Isn’t Nevada a WUE/WICHE state? Would that have helped for other affordable options?</p>
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<p>Prestige generally tracks selectivity (whether you agree with that is a different story). UC as a system targets the top eighth of high school graduates (California’s other public four year system, CSU, targets the top third), so its relatively high selectivity contributes to a high level of prestige compared to many other state universities. Remember, California is a big state with lots of high school graduates. There are also fewer private schools than there are in the northeast, where high achieving students in NY, NJ, PA, etc. are attracted to.</p>
<p>We used to live in California and my daughter would really like to go to a California school (for the very important reason that her boyfriend lives there). There really isn’t one that we can afford, public or private. So she looked for other schools in the west. She is going to Wyoming, with a $14000 OOS price tag, with merit scholarships and department scholarships. Does it have the ‘pop’ that UCLA has? It does in Denver or Utah or Montana, and probably Nevada, but no, not nationally. U of Utah allows a student to get instate status after a year (encourages it).</p>
<p>Things aren’t going to change in California so you’ll either have to pick another school or take out a lot of loans.</p>
<p>If you choose to go to UCLA, you will only pay OOS tuition as a freshman. After living there for a year, you will be considered a resident of California and pay in state tuition. </p>
<p>I am pretty sure that is wrong. </p>
<p>chamelean75 is definitely wrong. </p>
<p>Are folks here just saying that UCLA isn’t worth the OOS price? My in-state son is considering UCLA (vs. Cal) and I’m concerned by @mom2collegekids’s comment about her nephews not getting opportunities there. </p>
<p>I remember a newspaper article – last summer? – reporting that the UC system would be increasing the percentage of acceptances to OOS students again this year. The reason is entirely because they want the higher tuition payments those OOS students would bring into the system. That’s it. Plenty of bright students here in CA were denied spots at UC schools this year so that the schools could let in more, higher-paying OOS students. Making it more affordable for the OP would defeat the purpose.</p>
<p>Ah you are right. I am wrong. I just checked the UC website.
<a href=“UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP”>UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP;
<p>If you don’t have the money, you could always go to a community college but I am not sure of the acceptance rate for OOS community college transfers. Back when I attended UC Davis in 2005, it was pretty competitive to transfer in. I imagine that transferring to UCLA from a community college from OOS is very competitive. </p>
<p>UC’s are good (not great other than a few things at a few of time). They are popular because they are IN California, and despite California not being what it used to be, being on the decline, many kids still want to come here. collegetime18 UC’s are good, but they are still public schools, tens of thousands of students, and just by sheer size they cannot do everything for everybody and most people at them are little fish in a big pond, or whatever the saying is. If you are in-state it is worth your money unless you want to spend more out of state or at privates (unless you were to get merit money out of state). Privates in California are not known for giving (overall) great merit money because they are in demand, especially now that the UC and CSU (California State University) systems are so overwhelmed. Hence, the privates are getting double the applications they used to in California.</p>
<p>The UC’s are good schools. Many companies come to recruit there which drastically increases your chances of getting an actual job. Depending on what you want to do, it may not be worth going to a UC. There are some occupations where your undergraduate education doesn’t matter such as being a teacher or a nurse. There are some occupations where the university you graduate from does matter, these include the tech companies of silicon valley and bio tech firms. These companies tend to get several thousand resumes a day. I’d say that most of their job recruitment comes from the certain schools. My brother works for Sandisk and most of the people it seems who work there are from UC Berkeley. At google, loads and loads of people are from Stanford.</p>
<p>Silicon Valley computer companies recruit at Berkeley and Stanford at least partially out of convenience. San Jose State also gets recruited for that reason.</p>
<p>Chamelean is wrong. That is only for grad students.</p>
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<p>Who said that there would not be decent opps? There are decent opps everywhere without a $55k price tag.</p>
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<p>The full OOS price is not worth it in many/most cases…especially for pre-med.</p>
<p>now I am really worried as ward is considering UCLA … forget the scholarships … we are internationals and am wondering what opportunities will there be? I read herein about not getting opportunities, students faculty ratio, professors interactions and also internships being very competitive to get. Now what should one do? has Purdue as option and engineering as the major 
any thoughts to help us decide? </p>