<p>i was wondering which school had a higher chance of pre-med students getting into med school? thanks to whoever sheds some light</p>
<p>Go to a less competitive UC and you will have a better chance. Med school requires a high GPA, and Cal isn't going to be friendly towards you in that aspect.</p>
<p>go to uci and get a 4.0</p>
<p>Both UCB and UCLA are difficult. Either university will give you a challenge.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Both schools are difficult and will give you a challenge, but medical schols admissions will recognize you are coming from a top tier UC versus a middle of the road UC... we all got into UCI, UCSB and UCD... not everyone gets into CAL and UCLA.</p>
<p>If you cannot handle the challenge of Cal or UCLA for undergrad, you'll never survive med school.</p>
<p>aggregate numbers such as med school admit rates are meaningless. there are so many factors to account for. it depends on the individual situation. at the extreme, ee at ucla is likely going to be much harder than american studies at berkeley. </p>
<p>both are at the same level. choose the school with the environment that suits you best.</p>
<p>take davisengineer advice.
UCB/UCLA prestige will hardly make up for the grade deflation.</p>
<p>but that advice will come and bite you from behind if you decide to do i-banking instead.</p>
<p>the deflation is not uniform. for example, all the upperdiv bioengineering classes ive taken is curved at an A- (everyone in the class gets either an A or a B). certain humanities classes are inflated even more.</p>
<p>upper division courses are generally easier grading wise. and all the stuff that bioe students need to go through the first two years is pretty darn hard.</p>
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<p>I dunno. Plenty of people probably couldn't handle Cal or UCLA just because of how they're structured, and become doctors. Medical school isn't always as competitive as we believe. Heck, some don't even use exams!</p>
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<p>Well, that knocks out about....00001% of the college student population.</p>
<p>What would you guys recommend majoring in for premed at Cal, taking into curves, course difficulty, ability to actually have a life, and yet still be able to learn some interesting content, without resorting to a creampuff major like sports studies? I applied for EECS, though I may end up changing majors and instead minoring in CS because of the horror stories I've heard. And don't worry about being overly-PC to me, because I'm not deadset on EECS, and I may consider ibanking or medical school.</p>
<p>Edit: How's mechanical engineering at Cal? I heard ME'ers at MIT have it the best in terms of still having lives and being able to learn amazing ****.</p>
<p>Yea, go to MIT definitely.</p>
<p>Personally if I was going the premed route I would major in something non science.</p>
<p>what's wrong with "creampuff" majors? college is the last chance for you to study whatever the hell you want. med schools dont care about major, and majoring in something unusual may make you a more interesting candidate at interviews</p>
<p>so does each school about equal when it comes to premed? which one has the stronger sciences?</p>
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<p>I disagree. Sure med school is going to be tough, but think about it this way: If you go to Cal or UCLA and totally mess up and dont get accepted to any med school because of your GPA, then you are already screwed. Your dream of becoming a doctor is over before it began. Or, you can go to an easier school, kick butt there, go to UCSF for med school, and adapt to this tough environment and go from there. Now you will get a great job as at least a GP instead of a mediocre job in w/e you majored in.</p>
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<p>Again, wrong. Talk to Sakky about this, but how come then people from MIT usually need a 3.7, while people from Duke usually need around a 3.5? Its because they dont care about your undergraduate school. You can duke it out in the premed forum, but there is quite a bit of evidence to show that it doesn't matter. So go wherever you will have fun rather than the most presitigous school out there.</p>
<p>just my 2 cents</p>
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I disagree. Sure med school is going to be tough, but think about it this way: If you go to Cal or UCLA and totally mess up and dont get accepted to any med school because of your GPA, then you are already screwed. Your dream of becoming a doctor is over before it began.
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<p>So not true...There are so many ways to make up for a mediocre GPA as far as med schools are concerned. MA studies, post-bac pre-med, and working for a few years can help put serious distance between your grades and the rest of your app. Heck, pulling of a 34+ on the MCAT alone (no small feat, I admit), can make up for a deficient GPA.</p>
<p>think of it as this way:
if you will be able to make a 3.7+ at ucla or cal you will do fine and get in med school.
now if you go to say uci, and score the same gpa, med school will probably pick the ucla/cal guy- assuming mcat score and gpa is the same.
the only problem is what if you decide medicine is not for you. then will you be happy to stay at uci/davis/sd</p>
<p>Madamebovary: that is not necessarily true at all. First of all, there is no way that two people will be exactly the same. There will always be a difference, be it essays, interviews, etc. Secondly, there again is no proof that they will take someone just based on his or her UG school. There are debates about this in the premed forum, so check that out.</p>
<p>UCLAri:
Yes there is a way to make up for it, I give you that, but wouldn't it be better for someone to enjoy their UG experience and get a higher GPA than struggle through UG, get worse grades, and having to study like hell for MCATs to make up for bad grades?</p>
<p>I would personally pick the 1st option, but thats just me.</p>
<p>yes california_love8; the case of having two people with exactly the same is impossible. ECs and Essays and premed req do matter. But my biggest question is that if prestige doesnt matter, why are we trying to so hard to get in these top 25 schools?</p>
<p>madamebovary,</p>
<p>Because the top schools tend to offer better experiences overall.</p>