UCLA vs. UCSB

<p>Got into both as an anthropology major. I am going to go to law school after. I changed my major to philosophy at UCSB without any issue. It seems a little more difficult to do at UCLA, plus I have all the pre-reqs done for anthro. My question is which has a better department? Which will be a better path to law school? I would like to go to a T14 law school. Any suggestions?
I am in state and a calgrant recipient, so aid is virtually the same. I think LA would provide a better selection of intern opportunities. SB seems like a beautiful place to live. I think both are going to cost about the same as far as living expenses correct?<br>
One of my major concerns is grade deflation at UCLA. Does it really exist? I hate to ask at what school and major I will have a better shot at a 4.0. But it is a needed evil. I need that gpa for law school.<br>
Any other factors I should be considering?<br>
I'm done partying, I'm an older returning student, so I'm not so much into the "scene". I do occasionally enjoy gong out for a few drinks, or watching a sporting event. I think watching Bruins football or basketball would be pretty cool. </p>

<p>Looking for suggestions. Thanks.</p>

<p>Here are some numbers from CalBar wrt [undergraduate](<a href=“Attorney Demographics”>http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/demographics.aspx&lt;/a&gt;)school attended:</p>

<p>1 Univ of California at Los Angeles; CA 20,516 8.66 %
2 Univ of California Berkeley; Berkeley CA 18,182 7.67 %
3 Univ of Southern Calif; Los Angeles CA 7,359 3.10 %
4 Univ of California Santa Barbara; CA 6,963 2.94 %
5 Stanford Univ; Stanford CA 6,962 2.94 %
6 Univ of California Davis; Davis CA 5,639 2.38 %
7 Univ of California San Diego; La Jolla CA 5,156 2.18 %
8 Univ of California Irvine; Irvine CA 4,278 1.80 %
9 San Diego State Univ; San Diego CA 3,397 1.43 %
10 California St Univ Northridge; CA 3,385 1.43 %</p>

<p>UCLA has a few thousand more undergrads, maybe around 1.1-1.2x’s as large as SB, but not three-x’s more as seen here in certified attys produced within CA.</p>

<p>You’ll have a great and very large, excellent pre-law society at UCLA, with excellent counseling and advising, with a lot of your fellow members attending some of the top l-schools in the nation.</p>

<p>On the other hand, though SB isn’t known as a pre-law magnet as UCLA, if you do well there, you’ll get into a good l-school also. </p>

<p>Depends on what you want, if you want less competition, SB; if you want one of the top pre-law programs in the nation, UCLA. I don’t think you could go wrong with either choice. Go to whatever u you find more endearing to you and the one where you feel you’ll thrive, and you’ll do well. And actually they’re pretty similar in a lot of respects, both schools have extremely happy, well-adjusted students.</p>

<p>Sorry, wrt grade deflation at UCLA … a total myth. The average gpa at UCLA is higher than at SB, only a hair behind Cal’s, of all the UCs. Depends what department also. Premeds at UCLA are probably the highest, engineering, probably the lowest. Anthro, probably in the middle, 3.25-3.30 or so. But, remember, it’s all on you – you are the one that controls your gpa; if you study all the time – there is never enough time to master a subject, you’ll do very well. :wink: Best of luck, and I know you don’t need it.</p>

<p>UCLA has a better national reputation and thus will put you in a better position for law school admission. Philosophy at UCLA is excellent.</p>

<p>Just to clarify in my post #2, I just wanted to state that not all the nos. for each of the u’s nor in the denominator as a whole (for %'s) are certified (licensed) “practicing” attys or judges, but are classified as the more general ‘members of CalBar.’ And certainly, there are a material amt of “inactive” members that went into these calculations. For instance for this latter sentence, I have know someone who started out as an atty, but is now in movie production and is ‘inactive,’ wrt classification.</p>

<p>I just happened to look up the following in statfinder … the average graduating UC gpas of those entering as frosh in 2003 for the following campuses: </p>

<p>Berkeley, 3.36
Davis, 3.06
Irvine, 3.13
Los Angeles, 3.30
Riverside, 2.91
San Diego, 3.20
Santa Barbara, 3.18
Santa Cruz, 3.18 </p>

<p>Statfinder is not bad, but for the generally outdated tables and some of the calculations presented on a tougher standard of reporting wrt gpas and SAT’s that UC likes impose. For instance, UC gpa is ~.2 points lower than fully wgpa, and SAT reporting shows mulitple scores per student (not just the highest).</p>

<p>besides the grammatical stuff … ‘I have know’ s/b ‘I know’…</p>

<p>This s/b clarified:</p>

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