<p>"I did not make up those numbers, I pulled them from the UCLA and USC's alumni websites. The number is more like 2.5."</p>
<p>wow, from 3 to 2.5 now, chnage your story much? post the site</p>
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Japanese doesn't care about American sports, so most likely they don't know USC for the sake of sports. UCLA is big in east asia, but partly due to non-academic reasons. DailyBruin ran a story years ago talking about people there confused between UCLA and CSULA They have a lot of UCLA shops though.
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<p>Really? I get asked about football, basketball, and baseball on a fairly regular basis. But like I said, it's not like I would know, since I live here.</p>
<p>And yes, Japanese do mix up UCLA and CSULA. But when they think of either one, they think it's the "good one."</p>
<p>Okay my bad, I don't know where I got 2.5 I must have read a different number somewhere. It's more like 2x more living alumni.</p>
<p>UCLA - 350,000
USC - 180,000</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uclalumni.net/NetworkingCareers/%5B/url%5D">http://www.uclalumni.net/NetworkingCareers/</a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California</a></p>
<p>So you basically agree with me on job placement, so why are we even arguing? My point is despite the Trojan network, UCLA grads have an equal chance (or almost equal) at getting jobs compared to USC grads. In the long run, the loyal network is less important because promotion rather than placement is desired.</p>
<p>"Okay my bad, I don't know where I got 2.5 I must have read a different number somewhere. It's more like 2x more living alumni."</p>
<p>first off, you have too much time on your hands. second, that number is more like 1.9. third, the numbers dont make sense. fourth like i said you could have a million alums, in the end it doesnt matter b/c they probably wont help much, and it really is irrelevant if that implies that it is more likely my future boss will be a bruin (b/c it doenst really imply anything). fifth, that number for ucla's alums is from ucla's website, i biased source. sixth, according to princeton review USC has 250,000 alumni living (its too bad i cant post a link b/c its from a book). finally, you went from 3 to 2.5 to 2 when the actually number is closer to 1.94, you think that looks credible?</p>
<p>MrTrojanMan,</p>
<p>First, I wouldn't be talking about having too much time, because you're right here with us.</p>
<p>Second, 1.9 versus 2! ZOMG! Call the math police!</p>
<p>Third, why not?</p>
<p>Fourth, ZOMG! PROVE IT!</p>
<p>Fifth, why on earth is the UCLA alumni website going to lie about the number of living alumni? Calls of a biased source are only problematic if the figure is likely to be fudged. Like say the site said, "UCLA offers the best networking options in LA," I'd be worried. But a straight figure like that? Probably not inaccurate.</p>
<p>Sixth, I'd be more inclined to believe Wikipedia, considering how often it's updated. And don't tell me, "ZOMG! It's open source!" It's been shown at least once by a credible source that it's a fairly accurate body of information.</p>
<p>Finally, ZOMG! Someone made a mistake with a figure! He must be a lying liar pants!</p>
<p>Try to stay out of the logical fallacies yourself, if you're going to start attacking credibility.</p>
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Maybe you should lead by example by not replying to yourself nine times consecutively, while stupefying us with the mythical feats of your friend's girlfriend's friend's dean... speaking of which, I know this guy who knows this guy who knows this guy who knows Bill Gates, and I owe this privilege to my UCLA education. Thanks, UCLA! :rolleyes:</p>
<p>the heart of LA's economy and entertainment is in West LA county. living in west LA, you meet plenty of USC and UCLA alumni who drive around in their cars with license plates and proudly touts their alma maters. however, you will find far more UCLA than USC people in this region. therefore, where it matters, there are more UCLA alumni - many who are very old, very powerful, and still very proud.</p>
<p>Top CA Fundraising Universities and Colleges.</p>
<p>Your link doesn't work.</p>
<p>It will if you add a .pdf to the end.</p>
<p>Thanks. <a href="http://www.cae.org/content/pdf/VSE-PressRelease2004.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.cae.org/content/pdf/VSE-PressRelease2004.pdf</a></p>
<p>"The nation's 10 top fund raising universities, in the order of dollars received, are: Harvard University, Stanford University, University of Pennsylvania, the University of Arkansas, John Hopkins University, UCLA, Cornell, University of Washington, University of Texas at Austin, and the University of Southern California."</p>
<p>UCLA beats USC in one more area :)</p>
<p>Since we're talking about financial resources:</p>
<h1>1 Campaign in higher education - Campaign UCLA is over $3 billion</h1>
<h1>1 Pell Grants</h1>
<p>"UCLA enrolls more low-income students than any other top-ranked public or private university in the country, according to a new national study. "
<a href="http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/images/2004/4/29/1ns.study.gfx.429.BIG.jpg%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/images/2004/4/29/1ns.study.gfx.429.BIG.jpg</a>
"...came in first in our social mobility rating because of its astoundingly high successful graduation rate given its large numbers of lower-income students. "
<a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0509.collegeguide.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0509.collegeguide.html</a></p>
<p>USC Law is obviously first tier. In the past, it has been weighed down by the reputation of the undergraduate university. Now that USC's incoming freshmen have an average SAT of 1370, that's all changed.</p>
<p>USC Law is quite simply superior to UCLA Law, and this is becoming much more widely recognized.</p>
<p>I really can't agree, flaves. Could you cite something as proof? How is USC so much better, and if that's so, how could people not recognize that? Has the USC undergrad been that blinding? </p>
<p>While they're pretty close, I know of many (including lawyers) who would characterize UCLA as more national and USC as more regional, and USC is far more likely to be exluded from the top 15 law schools (a first tier, although some say top 3 or top 10 is, it depends on the system), though few think these are miles apart in quality.</p>
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<p>USC Law is quite simply superior to UCLA Law, and this is becoming much more widely recognized.
This is so weak that I think it deserves a response in the form of a run-on sentence to make up for its shortcomings. I love it how flaves registered for a College Confidential Forums account just to bump a two week-old thread with the mother of all straw-men: USC Law supposedly being better than UCLA Law, based on USC's inflated 1370 SAT I score (merely a composite of the best subscores) which somehow makes its graduate law school "quite simply superior" (never mind the LSAT). With such a narrow focus, it's no wonder that USC Law is still a regional school that never cracked the Top 15 in the national rankings. Nothing is weighing down USC Law -- stop making excuses. Anyways, let's see some relevant statistics before you decide to imitate the USC equivalent of CotoDeCasa... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>^ Someone bring some water because flaves just got BURNED! :D</p>
<p>I think what flaves meant was....</p>
<p>USC Law is obviously questionable. In the past, it has been weighed down by the reputation of the undergraduate university. Now that USC's incoming freshmen have an average SAT of 1370, that makes the law program even more unrecognizable.</p>
<p>USC Law is quite simply under-achieving compared to UCLA Law, and this is becoming much more widely recognized.</p>
<p>=) Not to bash USC too much, but this is a UCLA forum.</p>
<p>USC law was ranked higher than UCLA law years ago, at least by some ranking agencies. Some people inside USC law had the ideas some time ago if the law school was not in USC, it may be ranked higher. </p>
<p>Anyway, ranking is not the ultimate goal for any law school, and I don't think USC law is under-achieving compared to UCLA's. They excel in somewhat different areas. UCLA law is more national wise recognized, but USC law does better in state. </p>
<p>One of my law school applying friends told me last year that USC law is better for career-minded people than UCLA's, which I didn't believe that time. But she insisted it's harder to get into USC law, and only applied to UCLA law and some others. I should've asked what information she got in hand that time;)</p>
<p>Yeah it is funny flopsy made up the "top15" thingy, when UCLA law merely made to No 15 in USNEWS this year. Top 14 is more commonly regarded the elite group. Schools between 15 and 25 are not that distinguishable.</p>