<p>I’ll be a 2nd year senior next fall, so it’s certainly possible to get a bunch of units from AP classes.</p>
<p>UCLA > > > USC</p>
<p>not only is it harder to get into and ranked higher, but also has better academics and less spoiled children</p>
<p>thats a gross overgeneralization…i heard that the statistics show that the average ucla kid’s family makes more than the average usc kid’s family</p>
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I’m sorry; but you should stop making unsubstantiated claims against UCLA and just take criticism where it is due. </p>
<p>Stop beating around the bush and making more far fetched claims to cover up your original failings. You’re not making yourself look better. It could be very possible you simply misinterpreted the webpage.</p>
<p>mnop444,</p>
<p>You sure represent your university really well. I’ll give you a tip though, typing in all caps usually doesn’t really help further your point.</p>
<p>I have no problems with UCLA. I think it’s a great institution and I love the rivalry between the two schools. Regarding your university of second choice remark, I’m from WA so I never bothered applying to UCLA. I’m pretty sure my stats would have made me a pretty decent match for it though.</p>
<p>lol um no i didn’t read the website wrong…and um im not beating around the bush…and i have a high gpa lol so much for my ‘original failings’…so i just made u look bad and its obvious ure a person who talks bout stuff he doesnt know lol</p>
<p>lol…</p>
<p>come on guys, dont feed the ■■■■■.</p>
<p>UCLA is dealing with severe budget cuts which could force you to take 6 years to graduate. </p>
<p>Also, they WILL increase tuition over the next four years, as much as 15% per year with no ‘lock in’ for your freshman year. So make sure your scholarship will cover that increase. </p>
<p>There is a list of suggestions right now for handling the severe budget cuts. Online courses, increased number of out-of-state students, three year degrees, etc. No one really knows where it will end. </p>
<p>USC is more predictable. I think that, if you like the atmosphere at USC and don’t mind the surrounding neighborhood (safety issues), then you may come out with a better experience overall with more contacts. They help you with your career and with internships. </p>
<p>The UCs also have opportunities, but you’ll be fighting the herd to get them.</p>
<p>I call BS on the 6 years to graduate because I don’t think UCLA allows anyone to graduate in 6 years. I’m a second year and I had no problems getting any of my classes. Heck, my counselor even sent an email to everyone in my major saying to email her back if a class is full so that more spaces can open up.</p>
<p>Even with the midyear fee increases, UCLA’s tuition hike this past year was less than USC’s.</p>
<p>And I get about 5 emails every day from the department counselor, so there’s no shortage of opportunities. The 6-year graduation thing must be a joke.</p>
<p>It IS a joke trust me, the UC’s want to do all they can to KICK people out, let alone let the students stay for 6 YEARS! They HATE that ( I would know I’m trying to stay a fifth year but it’s kind of hard) It’s a liability to the college to allow a student to stay over their 4 yr limit. I’m in an impacted major and I’m not having problems (sure I can’t get my #1 choice class but I can get other classes that will fulfill the GE/major prereq. class too). USC is just not worth it to, but if you’re rich I guess it is if you wanna shell out $50,000 a yr.</p>
<p>"In the top ten fundraising institutions for 2009, USC placed 7th. This was ahead of Yale, Duke, UCLA, MIT and Univ. of Chicago. USC raised $368 plus million. [UCLA placed 9th.]</p>
<p>The last report I read USC was fifth in the nation in National Merit Scholars. [Data on UCLA was not found.]</p>
<p>Princeton Review ranked [UCLA and] USC 98 in selectivity.</p>
<p>The following are some comparisons of USC and UCLA from US News. This data is from the enrolled 2008-2009 class as there was complete data available.</p>
<p>UCLA Admit Rate for the 2008-2009 enrolled class 22.8
USC Admit Rate for the 2008-2009 enrolled class 21.9</p>
<p>ACT composite for enrolled freshmen (USC and UCLA use the exact same system for the ACT)
UCLA 25-31
USC 28-33</p>
<p>Size of freshmen class
UCLA 4735
USC 2766</p>
<p>Faculty Student Ratio
UCLA 1:16
USC 1:9</p>
<p>Faculty Resources Rank (2007 data)
UCLA 42nd
USC 25th</p>
<p>Geographic Representation
UCLA from CA 94%
USC from CA 55%</p>
<p>Giving Contributions to University Ranking
UCLA 109th
USC 8th"</p>
<p>US News Rank and Score
UCLA #24 Score of 73
USC #26 Score of 72</p>
<p>College Prwlr Grades for Academics
UCLA B+
USC A-</p>
<p>Princeton Review Score for Academics
UCLA 80
USC 87</p>
<p>For internationals like myself, ucla is far, far, FAR more selective than
usc.</p>
<p>I would post admissions graphs from my school’s naviance site but I’m not sure if we’re allowed to. It’s to the point where ucla was a reach
for me but usc would have been a safety, and that more than half of applicants get into usc from my school. 1 in 6 get into ucla. If only for these stats, I’m not a believer in usc’s supposed selectivity. Many ‘average’ (pardon the brash language) students get in every year.</p>
<p>…elementfool. Bayboi apparently attends Berk and apparently his sister attends USC. Bayboi’s exsistence is solely to attack UCLA. But since his post was back in March, I’ll cut him some slack.</p>
<p>I think what’s relevant to the OP is how each school places into law school.</p>
<p>Here are the [bar-certifed</a> attys in CA by undergrad institution](<a href=“http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/demographics.aspx]bar-certifed”>Attorney Demographics), just scroll down a bit: UCLA 19k+, Cal 17K+, USC, 7K. Certainly USC enrolls more non-CA residents, but probably most of these would have plans on being Californians after finishing at USC, so I wouldn’t expect many more USC-undergrad-trained attys in other countries/states. I wouldn’t doubt if UCLA had more outside of CA. </p>
<p>THis is because, the most telling point of whether someone from either school would practice law in, say, NYC, would be if he or she were to attend law school in NY, say, at NYU or Columbia or Fordham, etc. NYC firms would go heavy after NY law-school grads.</p>
<p>And obviously UCLA has better placement to law schools by far in general, one would expect to see a good deal more UCLA grads at schools like NYU, Columbia, Fordham.</p>