<p>Colloquially, CC forums use the term 't14' to refer to nationally revered law schools. But UCLA is at the cusp of getting into the t14. IIRC, only a couple of points separate them from the t14. So what would happen if UCLA tries to game the rankings like the undergrad schools do. And after this, they jump 1 or 2 spots.</p>
<p>Would we then use T15 just so we can include Georgetown (GT is #14 right now right?)? Or would it remain T14? Can UCLA ever be regarded as a national law school when an exact region is specified in its name? </p>
<p>And lastly, is there a reason why the T14 is so set? Maybe there's something I don't know, something that will forever keep UCLA from getting those 3 points.</p>
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<p>Can somebody please explain the significance of the top 14? </p>
<p>I hope the explanation helps</p>
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<p>Every school in the top 14 has been ranked in the top 10 at least once. (I believe Northwestern was the last of the top 14 to crack it, in 2004). No other LS has ever cracked that top 10. Moroever, this means that depending on the year, some of these schools may or may not be “top 10.” </p>
<p>I disagree a bit with crunchy. There is nothing magic about the 15-20 group. Moreover, other than UCLA and Texas–which have always been ranked just below the top 14 and are really regional law schools mostly because they are public law schools which limit out of state enrollment–15 to 20 hasn’t been that stable. So, making the cut off #20 is, IMO, very unwise. </p>
<p>This year, it’s Vandy (15), UCLA/Texas (16), USoCal (18), WUSTL (19) and GW
<p>Once you get into law school, most people don’t pay much attention to any rankings other than perhaps that of the ls they attend or alma mater. So, when you sit down to talk to a 4th year associate during a job interview, the odds are high that if (s)he has any idea of how the ls you attend ranks, (s)he’ll be thinking of how it ranked when he STARTED law school about 7 years earlier. The schools which ranked 15-20 back then may well not be in that group any more. </p>
<p>I have a Rohrschak (spelling?) test for ls rankings. Ask a lawyer whether BC or BU law is higher ranked. The answer has NOT been consistent over time. So. lawyers of different ages will be convinced that they are giving the right answer–which was the right answer when they applied to law school. It even works when you ask the question in Boston! </p>
<p>And lawyers are pretty out of it if you ask them to rank ls outside their region. Most NYC lawyers haven’t a clue how highly ranked the U of Minn LS is. I think most would assume that Fordham ranks higher. I think most Southern lawyers would assume that W&L outranks UMinn. </p>
<p>Please understand that I am NOT saying that the difference between #17 and a third tier (US News no longer has a second tier) LS is meaningless. It isn’t. But while there really is a genuine drop after the top 14 or, if you live in Cali or TX, those 14 plus UCLA and U-Tx, there isn’t the sort of drop off between #20 and #25 , in large part because the rankings are pretty fluid in that zone.</p>
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<p>good job, sybbie
<p>UCLA has a fantastic law school. It’s graduates are excellent and many become very capable lawyers.</p>
<p>I agree. But I would think going to UCLA only if I pay for the instate tuition…</p>