<p>Does going to the Undegrad program of a certain UC increase your chances at getting into the grad program for that UC?</p>
<p>And.. how do the top two UC's rank for undergad and for Grad school?</p>
<p>i know Berkeley is one of the best grad schools in the world. i'm not sure about UCLA. i don't think that doing undergrad at a certain UC necessarily increases your chances of getting into a grad program at the same UC but it could help you establish connections with faculty in the grad school...which might increase your chances.</p>
<p>just the opposite. As a general rule, the UC's prefer that their undergrads go elsewhere for grad school, even another UC.</p>
<p>UCLA's School of Engineering has a guaranteed admissions program where any UCLA engineering undergraduate is allowed to continue his/her study at the School of Engineering for graduate school if he or she maintains a >3.50 GPA. There's no need to take the GRE tests or ask for letters of recommendations either...</p>
<p>lol but good luck with that >3.5 as an engineering major</p>
<p>^ haha agreed. I'm a history major and barely getting a 3.5 at UCLA. My friend is a Chem. Eng. major and he is busting his brains out and he told me if someone does get over a 3.6, he is a stud in his major. </p>
<p>really, a 3.5 and guarenteed admission? Thats a sweet deal except for the fact to even bust a 3.5 in college means long all nighters everyday</p>
<p>I was asking this because I heard something similar to what flopsy mentioned.</p>
<p>In general, schools discourage their students from doing graduate work at the same school as undergrad. There are exceptions, such as MIT in some departments, but the case usually is that schools prefer not to inbreed. By going to a second school, the student usually gets another perspective on the subject. Now, if you switch departments, then it often is the same case, so someone doing English as an undergraduate and later decides to go to the same school's Theater Studies program probably won't get the same outlook. Anyway, the point is that schools tend to tell the receivers of BAs and BSs that it's best to go elsewhere for the graduate work.</p>
<p>Going to a UC might help you get into the UC grad program, but not only because you went to it- it is the connections made there. I know a person who got into a very competitive psych program at UCLA after graduating from Berkeley because the professors at each school knew one another. Not only did she do really well at a respected school, but one of her professors helped her out. Are the UCs the only school doing this? Heck no! If you go to any school, professors (if they like you and want to help you) will do what they can for you.</p>
<p>Most people would consider Berkeley and UCLA to be the top two UCs. Few would question their graduate programs in general, although I would ask who cares about their general programs- woulnd't you care more about the program in your field? That's another topic, though. As to undergrad, some people consider it to be largely positive, with a few very large faults. If you do well at the schools, you can go anywhere- the top graduate and professional school programs. However, some think that the school does not do enough to help its students do well. Some people consider the larger class sizes which tend to appear in the early years of education to be less helpful to students. It's like that you will get into a few large classes while you're at either school. How you feel about that determines how this will affect you. Some people don't really notice that there are sometimes two hundred other people in lecture with you. Others can't stand it. I personally don't notice it. Also, for almost all large classes, you will have a secondary smaller class. In addition, there are many smaller classes offered, such as freshmen and sophomore seminars, language classes, and other, specialty classes, such as required writing classes (that many people get out of) which are kept to a very small number of people. You will get a mix of some large classes with your smaller classes. Anyway, the faculty at each school is incredible and strong across the board, which is great if you aren't sure what you want to do. Oh, and if you have a particular interest, it might be the case that the department is smaller, or more unified, which makes the campus seem more close-knit. Examples here include linguistics, classics, and celtic studies.</p>
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<p>Another exception: many students at UC Davis vet school did their undergrad at UC Davis, particularly the Animal Science department.</p>
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<p>Really? I barely stressed out during college, and was well above 3.5. Poli sci and Japanese major.</p>
<p>But I'm a pirate like that.</p>
<p>Saying that Berkeley's grad school is one of the best, like Hello2u did, is disingenous. Grad schools are not ranked holistically. Again, they are NOT ranked holistically. Each program is individually assessed. In that case, yes, Cal is amazing in its overall graduate program. </p>
<p>Cal, UCLA, and UCSD all have several top graduate programs. Going to any one of them for undergrad will in no way affect your chances for grad schools (PhD). However, many programs do not want their own undergrads simply because they don't offer the program anything new or exciting. It's nothing more heinous than that. However, I know quite a few UCLA undergrads who went on the UCLA for grad school.</p>
<p>I know a first-year Chemical Engineering (Photonics) grad student here who also did his undergrad engineering degree at UCLA... he's a beast, to say the least. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>=-/ I want to do Computer Science.. well AI actually.. UCLA and UCB rank among the top for that.. but I'm not sure if it's undergrad or grad =-(</p>
<p>There are few if any pure undergrad institution ranking for universities. Basically, either school will have what you need if you seek it out. It's there.</p>
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Really? I barely stressed out during college, and was well above 3.5. Poli sci and Japanese major.</p>
<p>But I'm a pirate like that.
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They were talking about a 3.5 in engineering, which is often top 25% or better. Obviously, a 3.5 in poli sci and Japanese would be much easier.</p>
<p>Really, im_blue? I had no idea. Besides, I don't think rExRuN467 was being that specific anyway.</p>
<p>I swear, kids these days and no sense of humor...</p>