UCSC Politics majors!!

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<p>@cali: Yah you had DECENT stats. That is code for “not good enough to get into UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCSB, UCD” therefore UCSC became your first choice. You are making my point for me.</p>

<p>Is it not the most politically active campus. Just because the people there talk a lot and blog their “ideas” doesn’t mean they are active. I would say UCB is by far the most politically active campus. As someone who was going to do a political science major (now history, but going to probably do the poli sci minor) and as someone who visited Cal, I can say it certainly is the top of that field. Granted a lot of the activism is stupid.</p>

<p>Wooo the students protested the Iraq war…so bold…</p>

<p>I have spent time at UCSC in the past, the school attracts uneducated raging libs. The people who masturbate to Keith Olbermann, decry Fox News as racist, use the words neocon, cronies, and facist every other minute, applaud liberal activism while calling conservative activism race fueled, and opposing any “big business” as bad because they don’t understand how the real world works. This is of course not to say radical conservatives aren’t ■■■■■■■ as well (since I know you are going to say something stupid like that rather than challenge my point). I’m sorry, it really is just a bunch of hippies and wannabes who want to “fight the power” because they think it’s cool.</p>

<p>As for the whole baboons thing. Let me explain a simple concept. People who get into UCLA, Cal, or UCSD don’t attend UCSC. 1/10000 do. So if you only need a 3.0 to get into most schools as you claim, that means most UCSC transfers failed to meet that criteria. They are the rejects of the other schools, obviously they will be weaker academically. There are stupid people at ALL UCs, no doubt. UCSC just has a monopoly which is fighting UCR.</p>

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<p>@ hijynx I’m the OP and if you read the original post UCSC was not my first choice, and I haven’t been rejected from any schools. The only reason I might be rejected from UCSD is because they are only accepting TAG participants for winter, and I didnt sign one. My stats are more than good enough to get into UCSD and UCLA from the data I’ve seen on UCstatfinder and various other sites. I’m sure UCSC is not as great as some of the top tier schools, but every respected college rating/ranking site I’ve visited gives it decent Academic ratings.</p>

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<p>Hijynx-</p>

<p>I got into the mid tiers out of high school, so your theory does not apply to me. It may certainly apply to others, but your sweeping generalization that students attend the highest ranked school they get into does not apply to all. </p>

<p>Since I am a moderate conservative, I agree with you that the far left presence at UCSC is annoying. This does not mean that people are blubbering leftist idiots. I have carried on conversations with many extremely liberal people and conservative people who have the ability to back up their views with historical examples and solutions. You can’t say that about most of the population. Like I said, there is a surprisingly small minority who are the “hippies that want to fight the power.” They are just loud and present together more often, making them appear as they are a significant population of the University. </p>

<p>As I said, academically speaking, I believe the school is very similar to the mid tier UCs. UCSC is not known for its politics major, but it is likely on par with the other mid tier UCs that are not known for their politics major either.</p>

<p>Leaving Cal and UCLA out of the equation, because they are the only UCs that require any brains to get into as a CCC transfer, the rest of the UCs have the same requirements. This would mean that CCC transfers could pick whatever UC they want. Following your logic, every CCC transfer who gets into UCSD, UCI, UCD, UCSB, UCSC, etc choose to go to UCSD. This doesn’t always happen. In fact, many people have chosen to go to a mid tier UC over UCSD for whatever reason. From a transfer standpoint, these schools are all equally difficult to get into, and the only schools that regularly accept students below a 3.0 are UCM/UCR.</p>

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<p>How many people do you honestly think choose to attend UCSC over UCSD, UCI, UCSB and UCD? Assuming they got into all the schools. As I said there are exceptions, but sweeping generalization or not, most people do opt for better schools, or else they wouldn’t apply. No one applies to UCSD as a fallback for UCSC.</p>

<p>I held numerous conversations with UCSC students while up there for 3 weeks, I got a much different impression than what you have received. Rarely did anyone have any sort of evidence or logic to back their claims. </p>

<p>I’m sorry, but no sane individual with knowledge of the topic is going to rank UCSC anywhere above 2nd or 3rd to last on the UC scale. It just isn’t on par with the other UC programs. Period.</p>

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<p>lol @ Hijynx</p>

<p>I applied to UCSD as a fallback for UCSC. And, on top of that, I probably won’t go to UCSD even if I get accepted there and turned down by UCSC (which I won’t). I have a 3.8, for what it’s worth. </p>

<p>You may be going to school for that awesome piece of paper from a “prestigious” school. Or maybe to be able to forever tell people where you went to school, and have it serve as a “status symbol” for you. That’s fine, but not my motivations. I’m going to school to learn and thrive in a community that meshes well with me, and in a place I would enjoy living. I get it, you go to UCLA, you’re awesome, and you want everyone to know it. Congratulations. You’re so much better than me. </p>

<p>Listen, I don’t know about you, but I’m 26 years old. I know where I want to spend the next couple years of my life, and that’s Santa Cruz. I know you’re ■■■■■■■■ (and not very well, btw), but seriously, you need to get a life if you’re just spending your days being a pretentious dickhead of a ■■■■■ on college confidential, of all places. It’s kinda pathetic.</p>

<p>I can tell you’re one of those “ZOMG I HATE LIBTARDS SO MUCH AND I WANT TO MAKE OUT WITH ANN COULTER!!!11!oneeleven!” kinda guys. I hope that works out for you. The non-deranged, however, don’t need to put down others’ life choices to make themselves feel better about their own. </p>

<p>I’d challenge your point, but you don’t really seem to have one, at least not one that’s apparent. You should’ve taken that logic and critical thinking course instead of English 102 for the IGETC. It’s pretty obvious that the main reason you don’t like SC is because the curriculum is not tailored to your beliefs (and curriculum shouldn’t be tailored to anyone’s beliefs, really). And that’s fine. Your view seems to have foundations in your belief that liberal = stupid. Btw, this is where you respond with “you only like SC because it’s curriculum is tailored to libtards!” Um, yeah…no. They actually have a lot of courses available that I don’t see at other UCs, all very interesting. The anarchists can get kind of annoying though. However, minus the hippies, I like the kind of people who live in the actual city of Santa Cruz. I’m not just looking for a school; I’m looking for a town to live in, people I’d like to meet, a certain atmosphere, and to get the **** out of LA. 20 years here is MORE than enough, thanks. In all honesty, even if I got into UCLA (which I’d more than likely be admitted, if I applied), I wouldn’t go. The city of Santa Cruz is what’s drawing me there, and the academics (of which your assessment is not very accurate, and incredibly biased) are a close second. Btw, I said SC was one of the MORE politically active campuses, not the MOST politically active campus. Awesome straw man argument you’ve got going there.</p>

<p>And with that, I’m done. I know I won’t get anywhere with you, so I’ll spend the remainder of my time doing things that are productive. You know, things less lame than flaming people’s university choice on a college admissions forum. You must have a very interesting life.</p>

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<p>I agree with you totally empires, the town and campus at Santa Cruz are really awesome, and I think people put too much vestige in where they get their undergrad degree. Especially since I plan on going to grad school immediately after graduation my undergrad degree won’t really matter too much (And if your studying something like Polisci or History do they ever really matter at the ug level). So I’m actually getting more and more excited about attending UCSC. Also a lot of things I’ve read about UCSD suggests the campus life leaves something to be desired.</p>

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<p>@Empire: I was reading your post, but I stopped when I remembered you where a music school drop out :frowning: lol</p>

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<p>cheers empirescrumble!</p>

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<p>Hijynx: Lol, wrong again assclown. I graduated Musicians Institute and went on to work in the industry for a few years before I decided to go after my degree. But you would have known that if you had read the entire post which you were referring to, in my post history. You know, when you were reading every single one of my posts to find something to talk **** about.</p>

<p>What a pathetic attempt at saving face. “duuuur, I didn’t read it, because you’re stupid!” You’re really bad at the whole ■■■■■■■■ thing. You should consider a career change too.</p>

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<p>Oh sorry, you graduated from the muscians institute, recorded a CD at home and handed out copies in hollywood in front of the Chinese theater. In between playing shows at the Cobalt of course.</p>

<p>Pathetic attempt at saving face? Please, I don’t need to save face with some inferior student. Don’t confuse me not taking to time to tear apart your thread as anything other than a previous lack of time. </p>

<p>If you took the time to read any of my history, you would see I mock people who refer to schools like Berkeley (or even UCLA) as prestigious. Nor do I go to UCLA just to tell everyone I went there. I am going to UCLA because it is in a class of it’s own (with Berkeley) in the UC system. But I am glad we can agree I am better than you.</p>

<p>Yes I get you have convinced yourself you want to spend your next few years at UCSC because you have no choice. Other than maybe UCR. I get that. I am happy for you. </p>

<p>I do hate “libtards” however do not hate liberals who are actually intelligent, a rare find at UCSC. I also hate Coulter, and the hard right. I am extremely moderate unfortunately. </p>

<p>I don’t dislike UCSC for it’s abundance of libtards, I just merely was making the point it has a ****ty political science program. It is tied with UCR. You and your cohorts got all up in arms and offended just because you think UCSC is Berkeley jr. or something.</p>

<p>And you find the classes “interesting” because they are probably tailored to libtards as yourself, I think you kind of self explained that.</p>

<p>Now just to prove what kind of knuckle draggers go to UCSC for political science, here is a gem from a previous thread. Try and guess who it’s from:</p>

<p>“We don’t know about next year, because there’s no budget for next year yet, only this year. If they didn’t cut the program this year (during the worst fiscal crisis in CA in at least two decades), I personally (as a politics major) find no reason they would throw out the program next year. However, if you want to be CERTAIN you’ll keep getting your CalGrants, I’d vote for Gavin Newsom in next year’s gubernatorial election. That’s the only way you can really be sure, if you ask me.”</p>

<p>Here’s a hint, it’s you. Now for the slow UCSC students who don’t see the problem, this moron has no idea what he’s talking about. Besides the irony of him saying “as a politics major” he has no grasp of how government works, and certainly not economics. And go figure he is a fanboy of a dbag like Newsom. Newsom is like the Coulter of the left. He’s such a hypocritical pretentious prick.</p>

<p>There is still a reason they would throw out CalGrants next year seeing as the state is still reeling from the effects of the recession, and it only gets worse before it gets better. You remember how I said lagging indicators? did you bother to read up on that? Probably not. Too busy educating people as a “politics” major haha. Second of all, even if that tool Newsom got elected (which I don’t see happening as a “historic” major) there would be no certainty CalGrants still wouldn’t be cut. </p>

<p>I have this eerie feeling I would recognize you as one of the mouth breathers from Gable or Levy’s class at Pierce. There were so many uneducated ■■■■■■■, but someone like you would surely stand out.</p>

<p>This article is also kind of interesting if you scroll to middle and look at the % numbers:</p>

<p>[The</a> Leftmost City: Progressive Politics in Santa Cruz](<a href=“http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/santacruz/progressive_politics.html]The”>The Leftmost City: Progressive Politics in Santa Cruz)</p>

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<p>Hahaha</p>

<p>You say you wouldn’t waste your time saving face with an “inferior student”, and then you go on to type 11 more paragraphs trying to do just that. Complete with straw man and ad hominem arguments, among other fallacies. Interesting for a guy who decries the logic of others. </p>

<p>Nope, graduated music business, and worked for a few years at the most successful independent record label in the US. It was actually a pretty great experience. I got older though, and decided I wanted to go in a different direction. Grown-ups do that sometimes, kiddo.</p>

<p>Yeah, I get your point, you think UCSC has a ****ty poli sci program because it’s LIBRAL!!1. My point is that you’re no expert, and that your view is inaccurate and obviously biased. </p>

<p>In the quote of mine you posted, the point I was trying to make was that there is no budget for next year yet, so we don’t know what’s gonna happen next year (which is what the OP was asking about in that thread). Further, the only way we can be sure that CalGrants will even still be around would be to vote Democratic in the gubernatorial election next year. That’s just common sense. Look at the budget negotiations we just went through. Threats to CalGrants were coming from the GOP, not the Dems (they were working to save the program). Were you paying attention at all? And out of all the Dems who have voiced their intention to run next year, I would vote for Newsom. I guess all it takes to be labeled a “fanboy” is voicing the intention to vote for someone. I’ll give you one thing though: I probably shouldn’t have said that would make things “certain”, but voting a Dem for Governor of CA will make it much more likely that CalGrants will still be around for us. Don’t agree? That’s fine, don’t vote for him. But don’t get all ****y that the facts don’t conform with your worldview.</p>

<p>Yes, I know what a lagging indicator is. Congratulations, you must have taken Econ 1.</p>

<p>You must have a pretty pathetic life if this is how you get your kicks. Coming on to college admissions forums (after you’re already enrolled in a UC) with some level of anonymity that allows you to talk **** to, and assume the worst of, people you know nothing about. All that, just so you can pretend you’re elevating yourself in the eyes of strangers. It’s funny, I see you exhibit unwarranted d-baggery to people in most of the threads you take part in here. The vast majority of responses to your posts show that most people here who have dealt with you do not like you at all, yet you keep coming back. Actually, it’d be funny if it weren’t so sad. You’re a class act with an obviously awesome social life.</p>

<p>You’re an “extreme moderate” who doesn’t see Fox News as biased. Yeah, I totally buy that. The amount of cognitive dissonance that must create in you should be staggering, but your numbed brain doesn’t seem to be bothered by it. Gotta say, I’m pretty impressed.</p>

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<p>aww… man… Hijynx tainted this threat… there goes another one</p>

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<p>Well, I respect his opinion and appreciate that he doesn’t just spout out negativity without some sources to back up his claims. </p>

<p>There really is no way to change his mind, nor will my mind change about the schools that are not the top 3 UCs. I think each UC serves its purpose in offering a quality higher education, and each UC offers a unique college experience. Just because one UC is easier to get into than another does not mean that the quality of education is any different. </p>

<p>It appears that UCB and UCSC both have an above average amount of liberal students. I’m not sure what you were getting at, because I think this is well known. To me, your chart shows that over the past 30 years, both schools have gotten significantly more academic, which explains the large drop in percentage of liberal students, especially at UCSC. This would be a plus in my opinion. The less three huggers protesting, the better the University.</p>

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<p>All that source really proves is that the student body at UCSC is largely liberal – something everybody already knew. To him, that’s supposed to prove students at UCSC are inferior, but it doesn’t prove anything because his argument is begging the question “does ‘liberal’ really equal ‘stupid’?” So, no, he hasn’t proven his point, although I do largely agree with everything else you said, Cali Trumpet.</p>

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<p>I am somewhat of an expert since I have spent a healthy amount of time the past 2 years researching UC campuses, different programs, reviews, etc. I never said UCSC was bad solely because it’s liberal, but because it is just a bad program. It is the lower echelon of students. The fact that many are radical libtards only coincides with this view. It would be no different if I took some crappy political science program from the south filled with radical right wing zealots. Most bad political science programs are filled with radicals from one side or the other.</p>

<p>You said you personally “as a politics major” (lol) find no way they will throw it out next year. So obviously you seemed to think you knew. Second of all, Newsom is not the only Democratic candidate. Nor is he the front runner of the party. What made you a fanboy was how ignorant your reason was for voting for him and how you recommended to other to vote for him based on this ignorance and lack of economic understanding. In the “politics major” we call people like you “ideologues.” </p>

<p>No you don’t know what a lagging indicator is. At least not when I made that first post. I am just proud you have wiki’d it since then.</p>

<p>My life is awesome. And I do enjoy posting here. It does give me some of my kicks, thanks for noticing :slight_smile: Thankfully people like you fulfill the need to entertain me while passing time at work. I appreciate your assistance, subordinate.</p>

<p>I never said Fox News wasn’t conservative. I merely laughed at ■■■■■■■ who call it “faux news” as if it is somehow the evil news corporation solely because it is conservative. These same people however seem to believe MSNBC, CBS, CNN are fair and accurate, when they are in fact very liberal (especially MSNBC). A true “politics major” and intelligent person would take the time to incorporate Fox News into their databank of information to get different views. I personally watch Fox, CNN, and even MSNBC - despite almost never agreeing with their views.</p>

<p>I’m pro choice (in fact pro abortion since I support population control), support gay marriage, pro deficit spending during a recession, and am an atheist…I can’t be THAT right wing.</p>

<p>G O O D T R Y, tool.</p>

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<p>I am an actual graduate of UCSC’s politics department and received a minor in history while there. Both departments had good and bad aspects, but both offered thought provoking courses. UCSC may not be the most prestigious UC, but I knew a number of people who went on to attend law schools like Northwestern and Bolt (UCB). I personally received a 166 on my LSAT and am currently waiting to apply to law schools.
I was also a transfer from a community college and UCSC was not my last choice. I was also accepted into UCB, UCLA, and UCSB. I originally chose UCLA, but after visiting a couple of times decided that living in a big city was not for me. In my opinion it is important to enjoy where you live, and not just base your choice on rankings and angry kids on internet discussion boards.
On a final note I am a NRA member and Republican, I had friends in the politics department that went on to join the Marines, Army, and Coast Guard. Not everyone is a “libtard” (although many do lean to the left), and I found that both the professors and students were happy to have someone represent the opposing view from time to time.<br>
I hope that where ever you end up you enjoy your experience because it goes by way too fast. Good luck with your decision and if you have any questions about UCSC feel free to ask away.</p>

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<p>@ Hijynx99</p>

<p>haha please you arrogant ■■■■. You cant simply act pretentious and pontificate all over anonymous forums. Your claims hold no weight, your two years of so-called research is simply a joke. Undoubtedly your were the “dumb” kid in a class at what your consider a “higher ranked” UC, so your going to ride their coat tails 'till the finish line. Don’t worry little guy any respectable employer will experience no difficulty deducing your stupidity… I sure didn’t. As for which is the best UC, other then LA and B its a relative toss… But just because you expended all of your intelligence getting accepted into a “better” UC doesn’t mean there weren’t a vast majority of those of us out there who just half-ass’d our way through the UC system with a 3.75, just so we could reach the corporate world and devour small minded, stat-centric people like you. </p>

<p>It doesn’t matter what UC you went to because people like me eat people like you alive everyday. </p>

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<p>@mikeA1 .,…this is from 2009…and this hijinx guy hasn’t been active since that year either…
Just throwing it out there.</p>

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<p>But I do like the enthusiasm.</p>

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<p>yea i know, i just felt like it need to be said.</p>