<p>UCI and UCSD are both fairly easy to get into for transfers. For Fall of '07 I was accepted to UCI as a Business-Econ. major and UCSD as an Econ. major. I ultimately decided on Business-Econ @ UCI.</p>
<p>The two majors should be fairly similar and as long as you have a couple internships under your belt, you shouldn't have any problems finding a job (out of college) w/ either one. With that said, you might want to visit both schools just to see which one you like better.</p>
<p>if management science is a beefed up version of economics why wouldn't everyone just major in that instead of economics?</p>
<p>No Idea..... I mean it literally is the same list of classes, except some of the optional econ electives are pre determined econ courses, and then it adds in decisions under uncertainty, accounting, financial analysis (I think), linear algebra and I think operations research as well.</p>
<p>because you have to take the harder series of calculus. econ requires the easy series of calculus. without linear algebra. as evo9 said, it also has operations research.</p>
<p><quote>I personally would rather go to UCI becuase the management science compared to UCI bus/econ, i dont feel is that huge of a difference, its not like your goin to berkeley haas.</quote></p>
<p>so you obviously know nothing of either program, if you dont know the differences.</p>
<p>look. let's put it this way. uci's program is just getting off the ground, and they haven't put enough time and effort into it to have it compete with ucla yet. on that note, management science is 'econ on steroids' and it's a vastly better program then ucla's econ. it cant compare with berkeley because it doesnt have enough laureates yet, and they havent expanded the program enough to where it needs to be. </p>
<p>that being said, management science here is complete, engaging, and a far better program-if you're cut out for it. a lot of people are not.</p>
<p>Well put zemookmook.
I am very happy to be doing the management science major. I have been doing ALOT of research over the last year+ and have found it to be an amazing program. I am still waiting on decisions for UCLA and USC, but I feel that even if accepted, I will still go to UCSD. Management science seems to really set one up for a prosperous future, as it is perfect training for masters/phd programs, many career fields (including executive positions) etc... Not many other econ programs come close (in my opinion). Although UCSD is not that highly recognized by recruiters, the school is very young and it is already tenth in the nation for grad. econ, and highly ranked undergrad. Also, I plan on going to grad school as well, so I will worry about name recognition then. But all in all, for my personal growth in this field, I couldnt be happier to go to UCSD.</p>
<p>Actually, its economics department is just highly rated because of its graduate econometrics department, which is absolutely top notch. However, anyone who does econometrics knows that its pretty much a statistical field. Most graduate schools will look at your letters of recommendation, research, coursework more than your school.</p>
<p>Starr videocasts lectures for his Mathematical Economics class, and provides a ton of resources. It's the only economics undergraduate class with marginal enrollment, ie less than 200.</p>
<p>A slight edit: it doesn't matter what econ major you do, honestly. Graduate schools won't care, and anyone looking seriously at your CV won't care much either. </p>
<p>Management Science is just an economics major plus required nonsense, so the economics major is better.</p>
<p>that is ridiculous logic. so they won't look higher on you for taking more classes?</p>
<p>bull.</p>
<p>It's the letters of recommendation that count, and if you can get that out of your microeconomics professor, then I don't see why not. Besides, if you were playing that game, you'd go math/econ, which is the most rigorous economics-based major in the undergraduate department. </p>
<p>In fact, anyone good at math and doing econ should do math/econ or I'll be lonely in my math classes next year. Excellent way to get recommendations too, as opposed to the 150+ lecture hall economics courses. Core courses are enforced, and there is still only one section yearlong sequence analysis/algebra course, and both are underpopulated. Not to mention non-required math courses, which have even fewer people. Enrollment went from 22 to 7 between two quarters of a sequence. =(</p>
<p>logos, while i agree with you on the it doesnt matter what major you are topic, i mean that comparatively speaking, i feel as though the quantitative rigor and focus on applied micro that our mgmt sci program has is better when held against a business econ or a business program. that was the point i was trying to make.</p>
<p>additionally a disclaimer: i am not hardcore enough to do math/econ. that **** is hard. i tried that advanced calc $#!%. no good. noooooooooo good.</p>
<p>also: i was unaware starr videocasts 113. what's the website?</p>
<p>edit: what sequence are you referring to?</p>
<p>Honestly, I just thought the econ/math major was convenient, since I was going to do a math major with a minor in economics otherwise. D:</p>
<p>well if you look at it that way then you should just do what i'm doing. double math and management science major. which offers the ultimate rigor in BOTH areas. and it's not that hard even for people with not too many incoming units. because of the overlap.</p>
<p>here is my schedule:
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<p>yeah man i kinda want to graduate in two years. lol i know its really hard at ucsd but im REALLY trying to do it? lol, four years sounds a little excessive for me. listen, both you guys should PM me if you want to join UIS. </p>
<p>oh, this is for all the other fools thinking about managment science as well. ucsd may not have the financial recruiting that cal or LA does, but that's not going to stop us: uis.ucsd.edu .</p>
<p>I was accepted as a management sci major and will probably go to sd</p>
<p>Aren't Management Science and Biz Econ two completely different majors?
Management science = statistics
Biz Econ = economics</p>
<p>I would guess that if mgnt sci. is in the econ dept. then it is statistics with a focus on economics</p>
<p>or no?</p>
<p>If I understand correctly, management science is going to be a lot more quantitative than the normal "economics" major. Also, management science is very microeconomic. I don't know how much statistics is involved, but I do believe there are some econometrics electives that man.sci. majors can take</p>
<p>Take it from a UCSD Management Science alumni: Neither of them will get you anywhere in the business job market, especially during this economic recession. Find a school that offers a "real" business program even if it's a State University rather than a UC.</p>
<p>If you really want to compare the two, UCSD Management Science is better than UCI Business Econ because #1.) Better school reputation. #2.) It has the managerial focus on micro-economics, it's more of a "management" program rather than economics or statistics (although you do have to use them both in the back of your head all the time).</p>
<p>Not to mention that neither UCSD or UCI has a good business undergrad program. Like I said earlier, any economics program is NOT a real business program and is less recognized/desired in the world of business-related job markets. It looks like this message arrived 9 months after it was originally posted, so if you're already in the program, good luck and cross your fingers.</p>
<p>Take it from a UCSD Management Science alumni: Neither of them will get you anywhere in the business-related job market, especially during this economic recession. Find a school that offers a "real" business program even if it's a State University rather than a UC.</p>
<p>If you really want to compare the two, UCSD Management Science is better than UCI Business Econ because #1.) Better school reputation. #2.) It has the managerial focus on micro-economics, it's more of a "management" program rather than economics or statistics (although you do have to use them both in the back of your head all the time).</p>
<p>Not to mention that neither UCSD or UCI has a good business undergrad program. Like I said earlier, any economics program is NOT a real business program and is less recognized/desired in the world of business-related job markets. It looks like this message arrived 9 months after it was originally posted, so if you're already in the program, good luck and cross your fingers.</p>
<p>Just my own opinion, I would prefer Management Science at UCSD than biz/econ at UCI. </p>
<p>I found that management science (also called operation research) is a really cool subject to study. You learn how to do things better, make the process easier and more efficient with a lot of quantitative tools like decision tree analysis, statistics, queing theory, inventory control, linear programming ... the list go on and on. </p>
<p>Even though their focus on quantitiative approach, you also take some qualitative approach courses in management. </p>
<p>I find that management science is like a big math application. In math courses, we focus on theorems, proofs but in management science we focus on applying these theories to solve business problems. Therefore, they are really complimentary to each other. </p>
<p>On the side, management science is a subfield within industrial engineering. Econ is also related to management science but I'm not sure how close ( I haven't taken many econ courses yet even though I have bunch of biz/econ friends at UCLA) but I'm pretty sure that management science requires more rigourous math skills than econ. </p>
<p>About me:
Math/Accounting/Management Science from UCLA.
Graduate student in industrial engineering at USC.</p>