would anyone advise me to stay at cc one more year, beef up the gpa and reapply to ucla?
I’ve pretty much taken UCSD out.
So now I’m choosing between UCSB and UCI.
Now SIRs are due on June 1st.
Does this mean its due tonight at 11:59 pm or June 1st 11:59 pm??? Kind of a stupid question lol.
@TonyStark93, If money is not a concern, why not take Econ 11 at UCLA or Econ 100A at UCI over summer since you seem to be nearby those campuses? That seems like the smart way to avoid the notorious 10A at UCSB. With some deeper research, I’m sure you can find an equivalent course at at nearby CSU as well.
@travelabroad, that seems like a huge risk as your schools are still very prestigious and not worth the year of salary you would be forgoing. If anything, most companies would be more likely to hire you if you have an additional year of job-specific experience vs another year of community college classes.
@TonyStark93 if this class you’re so worried about is equivalent to Econ 100A at UCI like @ActuaryorBust said, you really have nothing to worry about. Take it at either school, I assure you it will not make or break your undergraduate career.
@ActuaryorBust @fncrane Because you’re only allowed to take it at UCSB… :\
Back to the SIR deadline question, so when it says it’s due June 1st, does it mean tonight 11:59pm or June1st 11:59pm?
Tomorrow night at 11:59. And either way, the class shouldn’t be too hard.
@TonyStark93 Oh wow, that’s the first I’ve heard of that. I assume that information is from this page?
http://www.econ.ucsb.edu/undergraduate/pre_major_gpa_policy.html
If so, I’m reading that as the the specific requirement that Econ 10A must be taken at UCSB is only a sub-requirement of the GPA policy? Wouldn’t meeting that primary requirement outright, even by taking the equivalent at another UC (since those factor into your UC GPA), waive that secondary requirement?
I will say when you read these things about how hard a class is the students are always talking about how half the kids never show up. And most are taking these weeders as sophomores. But still, it’s worrisome.
@ActuaryorBust opportunity cost analysis, i like it.
10a is designed as a weeder course and will be more difficult if taken at sb than another uc. but as long as you’re comfortable with derivatives and have a solid algebraic foundation it shouldn’t be too bad…though i’m interested in what actuary just mentioned…if there is a loophole and we can get uc credit for 10a at another campus over summer that would be pretty helpful.
There is another class sb students have to pass to enter the econ major and thats stats. my buddy suggested i take those courses in separate quarters, so if i can take one over summer, sign me up! (assuming i sir to sb)
@lindyk8 It is very worrisome. I don’t wanna get screwed over because of one class. I’ve been reading nothing, but horror stories because of weeder courses for the past 2 hrs…
@travelabroad If there was a loophole I’m pretty sure everybody would be doing it. Btw check your inbox I sent you a reply.
would 100a be the sb 10a equivalent? https://summer.uci.edu/courses/?i=500&action=topic
and 11 be the equivalent from ucla http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/schedule/catalog.aspx?sa=ECON+++&funsel=3
@TonyStark93
Holy shit dude I’m in the same spot! I’ve been sitting here for the past few hours reading horror stories about Econ10A and I was wondering too if the deadline was Monay 11:59, but that question is now answered. I’m the guy who’s been posting all those threads on Reddit about Econ10A. If you wanna talk about it shoot me a PM. I’m wondering if there is a loophole that allows us to take Econ10A somewhere else over the summer. Right now I’m 50/50 between Davis and SB, but I really wanna go to SB
@SasukeCA LOL!!! I was JUST reading your post on Reddit XD that’s crazy haha
I just messaged you check your inbox.
This might be late your SIR consideration but, I still don’t see the specific part where 10A has to be taken at UCSB and cannot be taken at another UC. Am I just blind?
Both the UCSB website & the associated PDF state that:
"In calculating this pre-major GPA, the Economics Department only counts the grades from courses taken at a University of California campus. A student who has completed all courses except Economics 10A at a /non UC college or university/ must earn a B or better in Economics 10A at UCSB. "
http://www.econ.ucsb.edu/undergraduate/pre_major_gpa_policy.html
http://my.sa.ucsb.edu/catalog/Current/Documents/2014_Majors/LS/Econ/Pre-Economics-BA-2014.pdf
The key here is “non UC college or university” which applies to most community colleges since most CCC transfers do not to take summer courses. The requirement is there because, as a normal transfer, only 10A is not offered at CCCs and thus is the only class calculated into your UC Major GPA. However, taking an equivalent class at another UC does get factored into your UC GPA and would allow you to clear the prerequisite Major GPA requirement to declare the major.
Here is a Facebook post (albeit outdated) with a direct response from the official Department of Econ addressing the same thing:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150712414810908&id=160093360907
A call to the department adviser should yield the same response.
I just called them. No loopholes. You can only take it at UCSB. I think im going to UCI.
Spoke to a couple different department admins.
There are two classes you have to take before entering the econ major, econ10a and pstat109.
10A must be taken at SB. If you don’t earn a B in 10A but you earn at least C, you can retake the final twice. If you retake the finals and don’t pass, you can take the class once more the next quarter.
For pstat109, you have to earn at least a B in that class as well, and it’s recommended that you take these classes in different quarters.
10A is offered during the summer, and I’m waiting for a responses on whether a stats class at ucla is equivalent to pstat109, and then I’ll decide whether to take 10A or the ucla stats equivalent over summer. (assuming i go to sb but i’m 90% sure that’s where i’m going)
The lady I spoke to also confirmed that actuary’s idea of taking care of all the core classes junior year and freeing up senior year for travel abroad is a smart choice.
Also: I was accepted to USC Marshall but was offered very little finaid. Is 70k over two years worth choosing Marshall over SB? My initial opinion is no, but someone may know something that I don’t know