UCSD, UCSB, UCI for an Out of Stater???

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>Some of you may have seen my stats before for UCLA/USC... I'm just wondering what my chances are for UCSD, UCSB, and UCI</p>

<p><strong>personal info</strong> I came to the U.S. at the age of 10 from China and Japan. I mentioned the interesting cultural clash I experienced. Instead of searching for sympathy, I focused my essay on how growing up in three different countries widened my horizon. </p>

<p>9th-11th Unweighted GPA 3.6 --> 12 Honors, 6 AP's total
UC Weighed - 4.0 - 4.1</p>

<p>SAT I --> 1900's SAT (verbal: 570 math: 680 writing: 650)
SAT II --> math 620, chinese 780</p>

<p>Volunteer: strong, consistent resume that shows my leadership skills</p>

<p>*I work 4 jobs simultaneously to develope my conceptual skills: *
1) trilingual interpreter for an electronic company in China
2) Chinese cultural dance instructor
3) YMCA childcare staff
4) Office assistant for a management company in America</p>

<p>Area of Focus: //Communications// I'm trilingual in Chinese, Japanese, English</p>

<ul>
<li>I have been working as a trilingual interpreter for an altimeter company in China for 3 years</li>
<li>I organized English classes to teach the Chinese children from an orphanage (interviewed by Nanjing K-1 channel)</li>
<li>I published an article in Chinese Yangtze Newspaper after surveying 500 Chinese students. I wrote of youth's cultural differences by comparing Chinese students to American students. </li>
</ul>

<p>Strong recommendation letters. </p>

<p>Strong essay topic: I have turned my disadvantages into advantages and created opportunities for myself. Focused on my one personal family struggle in my 10th grade year and how I have evolved from that hardship and contributed to the community.</p>

<p>UCSD - Undeclared
UCI - Undeclared
UCSB - Communications, Undeclared</p>

<p>u'll get in UCI and UCSB, UCSD is a slight reach</p>

<p>i really like how you have developed your resume. I think you have great chances at those schools.</p>

<p>UCSD will be a match/slight reach. You hit their gpa requirement (4.0 w) and ur 20 points above their average SAT, had u been a Californian safe match. HOwever, oos makes it a slight reach. for OOS you have to be above and beyond the avg requirements. USC u have a decent shot, UCLA none.</p>

<p>You're an interesting candidate. Four jobs, my God!</p>

<p>UCI - Safe Match
UCSD - Slight Reach
UCSB - Safe Match</p>

<p>"UCSD will be a match/slight reach. You hit their gpa requirement (4.0 w) and ur 20 points above their average SAT, had u been a Californian safe match. HOwever, oos makes it a slight reach. for OOS you have to be above and beyond the avg requirements. USC u have a decent shot, UCLA none."</p>

<p>^^^Are you kidding me. UCSD is not a safe match for the poster if he was in state. He is below their average admit for in state of approx 4.04 and 1940 SAT. His stats are below that. How on earth would you come up with UCSD being a safe match in state? if anything it would be a match at best in state, likely more of a slight reach in state. Out of state the posters chances for UCSD is between a slight reach and a reach, probably closer to a reach. The posters SAT score is not 20 points above UCSD's average, its over 35 points lower than their average admit for in state. What are you talking about? the average admit is approx 1940 SAT and 4.04 GPA. The poster has a 1900 SAT. Dont give out bum information. That is not fair to the poster. The poster is a match for UCI and UCSB out of state. UCSB and UCI would be safe matches in state. UC's are tough out of state. For USC, out of state does not hurt your chances as it does at UC's. Also remember, your SAT calculation will also likely he higher at USC as it computes your SAT's using multiple sitting, while UC's use single sitting computation.</p>

<p>Heres the link to UCSD admissions averages:</p>

<p><a href="http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsd.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsd.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>UCLA: Reach (out of state)
UCSD: Slight Reach-Reach (out of state)
USC: Slight Reach
UCI/UCSB: Match (out of state)</p>

<p>UCChris,</p>

<p>"SAT.. its over 35 points lower than their average admit for in state."</p>

<p>I understand that I'm below average.. but is 35 points lower than average a big deal? That's like getting 1 question wrong on the SAT's.. I thought "1800-2025" was a level.. then 2025 - 2250 is another level. So that means I fall in the bottom 25% of applicants?</p>

<p>And how exactly does USC compute SAT's using multiple stitting? What do you mean by that?</p>

<p>Thanks for the honesty!</p>

<p>Last summer, I wanted to go to UCLA for college so bad that I flew across the country to attend 6 weeks of a summer session alone. I took a statistics course and a physics course.. I finished both classes with A's.</p>

<p>I wrote of my experience @ UCLA for the "How have you been taking advantages of education opportunities to prepare for college" essay, including how determined I am to pursue my future education, my independence away from home, self-discipline, etc.</p>

<p> What do you think the UC's will think of that? </p>

<p>Any more opinions?</p>

<p>Thanks everyone!</p>

<p>I think you have a match at all of those colleges, except UCLA. It will definitely be a slight reach. Despite your admittedly impressive list of credentials, your SAT score just doesn't cut it for the top schools. Mine is only a tad higher, and I'm disappointed, but that's not the only thing stopping me: my GPA sucks.</p>

<p>I think you have a shot.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>anyone else familiar with San Diego, Irvine, and Santa Barbara's stats for out of states?</p>

<p>I said UCSD was a slight reach, not a safe match. I understand that the OP's OOS, but he's a very unique candidate.</p>

<p>Heavenwood, i was referring to flong's post, deffiantly not yours. your odds look about right to me. saying ucsd is a safe match out of state with a 1900 sat and gpa between 4.0-4.1 is ridiculous. it is a slight reach, as you stated. maybe even a reach.</p>

<p>"And how exactly does USC compute SAT's using multiple stitting? What do you mean by that?"</p>

<p>USC allows you to take your best score in each area from numerous sittings (sat tests) and combine them to create your best score. many schools in the us do this to inflate their numbers. UC's however do not. They only will take your best single sitting, not best score in each test area from numerous sittings as USC does.</p>

<p>I was stating that out of state is significantly harder to gain admissions to top UC's like SD and LA. Your SAT is below UCSD's average in state, and your GPA is approx average for their admitts. You would be an approx match-slight reach in state for UCSD. You are out of state, which would make UCSD approx a slight reach-reach. If you were in state, those 35-40 points on the SAT scale would not be a large amount to be below the average, but since you are out of state, the average out of state SAT score for admitts is going to be significantly higher than the 1940 average for in staters. Your 1900 SAT score is likely closer to a hundred points or more below the average admit for out of staters into UCSD, and even more so for UCLA. You cannot compare your chances with in staters as that would not give you a realistic idea for admissions chances. UCLA is a slight reach-reach in state which would make it a reach out of state. Here are the admissions numbers from the UC's. remember, these are mostly in state numbers as 95+% of these schools admits are in state:</p>

<p>UCSD:
<a href="http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsd.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsd.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>UCLA:
<a href="http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucla.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucla.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It seems like a fair amount of people on this post tend to ignore the numbers and give a rosier picture of admissions odds. While its nice not to hurt anyones feelings, its better to give realistic odds of admission, than have the poster be schocked when he gets admissions letters back from the schools. I do think you have a realistic shot of getting into UCSD and UCLA. There deffiantly a slight reach or reach, but I have heard far crazier stories of people gaining admission out of state with far lower scores than you. Best of luck!</p>

<p>My 1900 is from a single setting.. my composite is 1930, I think. </p>

<p>My senior midyear unweighted GPA is 3.90 with 3 AP's and 2 honors. I believe I've shown a growing passion in education even through difficult times.. will this help to boost my application for USC?</p>

<p>Can someone please give me a percentage?
What is match? What is slight reach? What is reach?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>And I'm a "she", not a "he"... you guys have assumed my gender so often :) Not that it'll make a difference.</p>

<p>anyone else??</p>

<p>Your unweighted GPA shows you've kept up the good work. By slight reach, we mean, not quite a match, but, not a full-blown reach either. The problem with applying OOS to the UC's is that they cap off at 3%. Even UNC gives 18%. You definitely have a good shot. I'd say around 45% if I had to guess.</p>

<p>USC: slight reach
UCLA: reach
UCSD: slight reach-reach
UCSB: match
UCI: match</p>

<p>HeavenWood,</p>

<p>what do you mean by that "they cap off at 3%"?</p>

<p>So would a MATCH be 70-80%?</p>

<p>and Reach 25%?</p>

<p>no match generally means 50-60 percent.</p>