See: [NSF</a> Grants University of Florida New Magnet Lab: 4: 4 - The Tech<a href=“apparently%20the%20MIT%20editor%20confused%20UF%20with%20FSU%20-%20ha”>/url</a></p>
<p>The Mag Lab is a huge advantage for FSU. My daughter was amazed she, as an undergrad, could have access to the Mag Lab for her research in biochemistry. It was excellent. She selected FSU over other schools as a result. I think the Mag Lab is still the only National Lab in Florida…</p>
<p>All the peer-reviewed recommendations favored the MIT proposal. The decision was such an unprecedented surpirse that an major review of award procedures was conducted resulting in the book published in 1994 by NAS that suggested major changes to the review and award process. The award to FSU is discussed.</p>
<p>“Some recent decisions by NSB have raised questions about the review process, selection criteria, choice of reviewers, staff discretion, or the NSB’s role. For example, one impetus behind this study was NSF’s 1990 decision, approved by the NSB, to award a five-year, $60 million grant to build and operate a National High Magnetic Field Laboratory to a consortium headed by Florida State University, even though peer review groups—the site visit panel and divisional advisory committee—had recommended a proposal by MIT.” P.21</p>
<p>Wait till the 2010 Census - the Midwest & Northeast will lose significant political clout when its all said and done. The reapportionment will not be kind to your region.</p>
<p>Did you know at one point the state of New York had 45 Congressional Districts? They are now down to 29 total.</p>
<p>Florida (18.3 million), Georgia (9.6 million), North Carolina (9.2 million), Virginia (7.7 million), and Tennessee (6.2 million) all had record gains over the last few years.</p>
<p>Also have to consider Texas as well (24.3 million).</p>
<p>Regardless of the how the current recession/depression plays out - citizens & foreigners will relocate to the South (it is just a question of when). California despite the state economy will also enjoy a massive influx of people over the long term.</p>
<p>"Please post your sources about TK’s lack of integrity vis a vis Machen’s issue with the St. Pete Times. You called him out, please support your charge with references.</p>
<p>Please refrain from smearing the man without facts."</p>
<p>I already have given you all the info you need, but hey, if you want more check this out (Stuff for Bick, Too!)</p>
<p>What else Bick? The Mohoney dorm rap tape? The Luther Campbell stuff? I can bring up Charlie Pell if you like…Thanks for posting this, it just adds to my assertion about the initial response not being strong enough, but does show that in the end the university took care of things and made changes which have produced, as Diaz illustrates, the desired effect (Marve, the mirror buster, is off the team. He also missed classes and was suspended).</p>
<p>Barrons, I don’t blame MIT for being upset. I’m sure they were surprised FSU beat them out for the NHMFL. High stakes competitions lead to controversy sometimes. Time to get over it because FSU has invested nearly $1 billion in state of the art science facilities on campus to even better compete with the MITs of the world. </p>
<p>Maybe someday Florida will figure out how to continue without a state income tax and still provide world class research to the United States, but it may not be today. Let me know when you’re ready to move to FL. :)</p>
<p>Fla is not on my list. Too flat and storm ridden. “Beat out” is not how I would put it. I don’t know exactly what strings they pulled but it was not based on typical merit criteria. Typical southern school behavior–when you can’t win within the rules–cheat.</p>
<p>This occurred in, what, the late 1980s and 1990? Don’t you think you’re sounding a bit like sour grapes to gripe now? How many times has the installation been renewed for funding?</p>
<p>Check out Tallahassee. It’s gorgeous. Hurricanes are very unlikely.</p>
<p>SSbick, one more time, like everyone keeps telling you, Machen’s was ranking UNDERGRADUATE programs. Your point is irrelevant to the argument. Do you get it? UNDERGRADUATE. Nothing to do with research nor with your perennial brochure styled explanations.</p>
<p>In the sciences, engineering, and some branches of the social sciences, large research expenditures attract top faculty, and vice versa. You simply don’t find very many top scientists at schools that do not support major research efforts. We might debate whether the top people in the field are the best teachers; not always, in my experience. But on the other hand, the very best students usually want opportunities to work with the very best faculty, the people who are out there at the frontiers of knowledge, making new discoveries. That’s where the intellectual excitement is. The rest is something of a backwater; the study is derivative, it’s about what someone else somewhere else is doing. Given all that, it’s not unreasonable for the president of a university to conclude that a research university that does a substantial amount of real research is better than a university that does comparatively less research; and it’s a reasonable judgment call that undergraduates are better off at the place where the new knowledge is being created, rather than merely observing it from a distance. There are trade-offs, of course. More research may mean less attention to undergraduate teaching. But overemphasis on undergraduate teaching at the expense of research probably means you’re simply not attracting the best people in the field to your faculty in the first place; the undergrads may feel better because they’re getting more attention, but that may not mean they’re getting a better education. These are questions that will be debated endlessly. But to assert that research is “irrelevant” to undergraduate education strikes me as just wildly wrong; there is surely a relationship, whether positive or negative.</p>
<p>Baghdad, your supposed references having nothing to do with the personal integrity of T.K. Wetherell, which you impugned. </p>
<p>He is clearly entitled and in fact has a duty to perform for his employer and this means defending it from inappropriate sanctions put forward by whatever group. If the NCAA knew what was best for them they’d not treat one school differently from another for the same transgressions. That’s not fairness or encouraging a spirit of American due process, that’s an abuse of power. FSU has accepted everything except the forfeiting of wins and self-reported the entire mess to the NCAA. No one forced TK to do this, he ordered it done. That’s integrity.</p>