^^^^Perhaps her essays were lacking in showing a definite interest in attending Michigan?
The purpose of the study cited was to determine which schools are supporting upward mobility. If you look at the US. News and World report top 50 national universities, you’ll see the top 5 schools ranked for upward mobility are all University of California schools. UC Berkeley and UCLA are the number 1 and 2 colleges in terms of the number of students who come from families in the bottom fifth in income and have students end up in the top 1percent. This thread takes that significant accomplishment and somehow makes it a negative.
It has always appeared to me that the University of California does things differently than the Universities of Michigan or Virginia for example. The UC is not attempting to maximize standardized scores in particular to the extent they could, and they take on much more income diversity.
“Yeah Michigan does not look at class rank. Gpa and class rigor is the most important and then essays test scores and recs for umich”
Yes at our school we have had high scoring kids 34 or 35 and well within the reported top 10 percent of our school ( all honors and AP CLASSES gets them there with several B+ grades ) whose U Mich GPA is a 3.7 or lower They routinely get into UCLA but not U MICH because a 3.7 ( they lose .3 off their real gpa for those + grades when converted) is low for U mich and it’s all about UWMGPA
Also my daughter know several Umich classmates who got into CAL but chose Ross or UCLA nursing but chose UMICHs more practice ( v research heavy) cirruculum.
Could be that Cal is way farther from Mich than NY has something to do with it. The only CA students who can really choose Mich have to be wealthy to afford all the ancillary costs.
I have to say, if NY had a Berkeley, my kid would be in state now. No reason to burn money just bc you can afford to! They are both such great schools. But NY/NJ/CT don’t have great IS flagships, so the kids leave!
New York has great private universities though! @HRSMom
Yes, but then you are spending as much as Michigan, and usually more!!!
Privates have smaller class sizes and better financial aid than public universities @HRSMom
We are full pay tho, so no aid at all. That is why you get so many high income family kids from the tri state area at Mich. we don’t benefit from FA, so it doesn’t factor in.
My son chose Mich over a number of privates.
Actually, that is only only true for a handful of privates. The vast majority of private universities offer pretty dismal financial aid (if we consider cost vs. value added, I think for-profits are big culprits here).
We’re poor by UMich standards. LOL. My kiddo confirms there are a lot of wealthy kids at UMich…that said, they are also smart kids with self discipline. Good students with a lot of curiosity and drive. So, she’s unoffended by their wealth and really doesn’t have any problem having friendships with people from all walks. One good friend is the heir to millions, one good friend has a single mom in inner city Detroit (my kid is middle class). These kids hang out together and have intellectual commonality, enjoy a lot of the same things, and get along really well. Meh…go figure.
My kiddo has yet to meet another student she doesn’t think belongs there. She says everyone is pretty exceptional. Lots of terrific minds. They all seem to be kids who worked very hard to get in…and worked their butts off to make the grades and scores necessary. If there was an obvious negating of admission standards for wealthier kids…this might bother me. But they seem to be held to the same tough standards as everyone else (obviously I haven’t checked each kid, but it doesn’t seem to be a noticeable issue) Rich, poor, or somewhere in the middle…you have to be an extremely hard working student with a lot of natural talent to get into UMich. (my observation, others might argue…but I see no evidence otherwise)