<p>If you could go to Missouri S&T for 15 grand, Rose Hulman for 24 grand, or Michigan for 22 grand, what would you do? My family/myself can pay out of our pocket probably ten-twelve grand of that, meaning missouri would be no loan, and the other two schools would be 40,000 dollars of debt depending on if i get an internship. I also can attend Kettering for 15 grand minus any money I make from co-op, but have pretty much ruled that out, its just not for me.</p>
<p>I like all of the schools, and am excited to study engineering. Each school is much different, all have great reputations, perhaps Michigan has the best. Missouri S&T and Rose-Hulman have much smaller class sizes. I like all the campuses, but Rose-Hulman is much smaller. Michigan is in a thriving city, Rose-Hulman and Missouri S&T not so much. I am confident I could get a great education at any of the schools. Plan on studying mechanical engineering, but am open to anything.</p>
<p>Each schools is even for me right now. I have been a life-long Michigan fan, but I don't want myself to make a decision for a football team (who wasn't even that good last year) while I fail out of 200 person classes. Plus as much as I love Michigan as a state, it's not really going anywhere and getting out might be smart. Any comments on the schools, be it prestige, value, campus, difficulty, quality of life, etc. would be greatly appreciated. If you went to the school, tell me about it. If you hire engineers, tell me if you recruit/like the school's grads. If you want to go to the schools, tell me why. May 1st is coming up and I need to decide! </p>
<p>hmm Michigan is way more prestigious than the other two by miles… Why would you go to Rose Hulman for even more money, especially given you are a Michigan fan?</p>
<p>All three schools are good engineering schools. All the reputations in industry are similar. I would not agree that Michigan’s is higher. Again, I am talking about reputation in industry, the people who hire. You can’t go wrong with any of those three.</p>
<p>Yes at Michigan there would be MUCH less personal interaction with professors just due to numbers.</p>
<p>Missouri S&T and Rose Hulman and known by employers as quality schools.</p>
<p>The thing about Missouri S&T and Rose Hulman are the FOCUS on engineering both schools have. It permeates everything they do. That isn’t necessarily good or bad it just is. </p>
<p>Personally, I look for overall value out for the money put in and especially in the economy if it were me I would pick Missouri S&T. </p>
<p>However, there are intangibles and it sounds like you like Michigan more for some intangibles. That’s OK. If you really like where you are going to school that is really important versus going somewhere you don’t like. </p>
<p>So, if it is a money question, I’d go with Missouri S&T. If it is not just a money question, then go to the one you really feel like fits you the best, because as I said in the beginning of my post. You CAN’T go wrong with any of these three.</p>
<p>“I would not agree that Michigan’s is higher. Again, I am talking about reputation in industry, the people who hire. You can’t go wrong with any of those three.”</p>
<p>Let’s see
examples of salary comparison beteween Missouri S&T and Michigan
Aerospace 55051 vs 59781 (almost 5k difference)
Civil 49541 vs 55664 (6k difference)
Computer Engineering 57629 vs 70939 (13k difference LOL)
Computer Science 57596 vs 73761 (hahahaha 16k difference)
Electrical 56658 vs 63635 (7k difference)
Industrial and Ops 52131 vs 58602 (6k difference)</p>
<p>mechanical is comparable
oh chemical is 2k in the other direction woohoo Missouri S&T!!!
straight from career center 07-08 data</p>
<p>40K in debt upon graduation: means it would take 6-7 years for you to pay off the debt even with a 5-7K difference in starting salaries (I’m assuming those are starting salaries listed by bearcats). Graduating debt free with a starting salary of an engineer will go a long way. Furthermore, by the time those 6-7 years pass, if you’re an exceptional worker you could potentially have moved into a higher position or have returned to school for a graduate degree.
I had to make a similar decision. I had to decide between University of Alabama and Georgia Tech. I have a free ride to UA and about 2/3-3/4 covered at GT. I decided to go to UA because I know that I won’t have any bills when I graduate besides housing costs. Now I don’t remember the difference between salaries but Alabama has an undergraduate focused engineering department and I am amazed how the professors recognize me outside of class even when school has been in session for only a week. And engineering is difficult to me so being able to meet with my professors as needed for extra help or to clarify something in class is great too.</p>
<p>“Plan on studying mechanical engineering, but am open to anything.”
this shows that you arent quite sure. You should go to michigan then because should you decide you hate engineering you are screwed at the other two schools</p>
<p>Crazyperson makes a very good point for you to consider.</p>
<p>Bearcat, thanks for the salary data.</p>
<p>Another thing to note is that
MST’s history is Mines and Metallurgy thus has degrees in that Michigan doesn’t have
Petroleum Engineering<br>
Geological Engineering<br>
Metallurgical Engineering<br>
Mining Engineering</p>
<p>whereas Michigan has historical background in automotive and manufacturing and is a larger school and has several majors S&T doesn’t have as well.</p>
<p>If you are considering Mechanical Engineering then it appears as Bearcat said that they are comparable.</p>
<p>My D went through the same thing you are going throught a couple years ago.</p>
<p>She was accepted at"</p>
<p>U of Illinois In State
U of Michigan
Rose Hulman</p>
<p>She loved U of Michigan and Rose. She spent a week at U of Mich going through their Woman in Eng summer program and loved it…</p>
<p>She loved Rose for the support and smaller classes and the feel of the campus. She ended up at Rose and can’t think of a better place. She also had an internship her first year. They have an excellent career program. She tells me all the time that she could not have made it through this first couple years without the support and profs at Rose. </p>
<p>Bottom Line: She looked at the numbers (woman) that graduated from engineering at all schools…</p>
<p>U of Ill- less than 30%
U of Mich 33%
Rose Hulman- over 90% </p>
<p>No Rose is not a Female college, BUT she wanted to know the success rates of women staying with engineering (the numbers are slightly lower than men)…so she looked at the women graduating. Rose is almost triple the students actually graduating. See this article…very good.</p>
<p>well obviously U of M and U of I are going to have much less retention rate. because both schools (more so U of M) has top 15 programs in any other dispciplines, which corresponds with what crazyperson said earlier…you are SCREWED if you decide you dont like engineering at a school like Rose hulman or Olin for that matter</p>
<p>also, not to mention U of M recruiting is more national while rose hulman is regional. If you want to stay in the region i see two program’s career prospect MAYBE equal…nationally? not a chance.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for your opinions. It really helps. My friends can’t understand why I would consider two other colleges they haven’t heard of over Michigan, but I really want a personal feel and I don’t want my parents to lose their savings for my education. My older sister got a full ride to a decent LAC so they don’t really have experience paying for college and the same sister is entering grad school next fall where they will be paying (english major, no money…), and I have a younger sister a couple years away from college</p>
<p>I would love to go to either school, but right now Missouri S&T seems the best. They just updated my financial aid today and it turns out I can go to the school for 10,300 a year including room and board due to a new scholarship. Considering my dad works for an automotive company and his job is constantly in question as it is for anyone working for Detroit’s Big 3, this is a great option for me and I am strongly considering it. I have visited the school and I am comfortable going there. </p>
<p>I am sure I want to be an engineer and I can’t think of anything else I would rather (or could) do. I have spent a lot of time in FIRST robotics, and been to a couple summer programs to try to make sure this is the right thing. When I said I was “open to anything,” it means I am considering aerospace but I don’t want to constrain myself considering aerospace is a shaky industry. I have ideas about possibly getting a business degree after engineering and going into management at at tech company, but who knows what I will be doing then. Will grad schools recognize Missouri S&T? I got into Georgia Tech, but can’t afford the out of state tuition, but was thinking about it for grad school because I love the Atlanta area and have a friend who goes there and loves it. I understand i will probably be going somewhere near my employer. </p>
<p>I have a feeling that Missouri S&T could be great financially, offer me lots of opportunities with its personal feel, and get me out of Michigan, but I know Michigan is a better school. Nobody in my family has ever gotten into Michigan, so it is kinda a big deal that I did and I feel bad turning down such a great educational opportunity that so many of my peers would nearly die for. Is it stupid for me to turn down Michigan for Missouri S&T? Does anyone actually have experience with Missouri S&T? Missouri S&T is cheaper, but is it worth as much as a Michigan degree?</p>
<p>Random Question: Which is better, Missouri S&T or Rose-Hulman?</p>
<p>if you want to get hired around the missouri region, I doubt it makes that big of a difference, but if you want to work nationwide, you have a much better shot being from michigan and all… so it depends on you.
If you ever want to get into the more tech consulting field instead of being a traditional line engineer, then definitely michigan, since i highly doubt accenture or IBM or deloitte and the likes would even think about recruiting at rose hulman or missouri S&T… so it depends on what you are doing with your degree</p>
<p>My son has a similar decision as you do. Missouri S&T does have a very good reputation among engineers, although they may need reminding that it used to be University of Missouri-Rolla. While the general population may not be familiar with it, the engineering industry certainly is!</p>
<p>Visited Rose Hulman with S and very impressed by the individual attention from faculty. They are rated #1 by US News for undergrad engineering and they are focused on their students’ success. The people very nice. Also costs are inclusive. The bigger campuses might have lower tuition but they sock you with the fees and sundries.
Good luck; you have great choices!</p>