I’m having a really hard time deciding between Ross and Dyson AEM: I got accepted into both schools for undergrad business. Cost is not an issue for me and location is also minor in my decision making. Do you have any advice?
Here’s my pros and cons:
Ross pros
Good startup resources
Bigger campus/more stuff to do/better location
Highly ranked (#3)
Good job placement
Great resources overall
Good startup culture
More minor flexibility
REAL program (real-world learning) is cool
Ross cons
Competitive due to size
Not ivy league- if I switched out of Ross (which I don’t think will happen) I would just be going to a public school. But considering that UMich is the #1 ranked public school, idk how much of a con this is
Dyson pros
Small class sizes
More intimate setting/more personal attention
More collaborative/nice
Can minor in CALS (I like nutrition/bio/stuff like that so I like this)
Prestige of ivy league (is this important? I feel like it is) and selectivity (<3%)
Strong alumni network
Good Wall Street connections/OG for finance
Closer relationships with/students and professors
Dyson cons
Elitism (Cornell in general, not Dyson specifically)
Not much to do in Ithaca/airports close down (not too big of a con for me)
Both in my mind are at par in terms of startup culture, study abroad, resources, weather, workload, and job placement.
Some of my questions are: which school has a more collaborative culture? Does Dyson have as many real-world learning experiences as Ross? Which school has a better alumni network? Which school has better internships/recruiting/etc.? Does Cornell have a lot of clout and is it worth going there over Ross because of that?
All of this is so confusing. Any advice/insights would be appreciated!
"Originally conceived of as an agriculturally centered program within the CALS,
it later came to be known as the Department of Applied Economics and Management.
in 2016, Dyson became a shared school as part of both CALS and the newly formed Cornell College of Business, now the [Cornell SC Johnson College of Business]
Today, the Dyson School is internationally renowned for its expertise in food and agricultural economics, management, environmental and resource economics, and international and development economics."
So Dyson as a school is fairly new and in my time it used to be known as AgEc and sure and it was a popular major, but it didn’t have clout. As far as Wall Street - they used to hire more CAS majors and Engineers. Things likely are different now, but my guess Ross is a more established concept.
Thanks for the response! I think for me, I’m not too concerned with when Ross was established vs. Dyson, I’m more trying to figure out where I would fit in the most. Do you have any opinions on the environment/network of the schools?
My experience with Dyson is dated, I just wanted to give you a historical perspective,
FWIW - I DON’T think many companies come to Cornell to specifically target Dyson.
Dyson students have to compete with CAS and COE for WS Sales&Trading, and with CAS for IB.
I am sure UM CC crowd can comment on how Ross is treated in the UM recruitment.
For anything in NYC, definitely Cornell. And there is that Ivy brand. Honestly, there isn’t much difference (in prestige or opportunities) so visit and go with fit first and foremost, but if there isn’t a big difference there and costs also don’t matter, then go with the Ivy.
But OP is an undergrad admitted to Dyson, not an MBA student admitted to Johnson. Regardless, Michigan-Ross has both an outstanding undergrad business program & an outstanding graduate MBA program.
Not arguing I actually think Ross is a better choice. Just throwing facts in One can take courses from Johnson essentially on demand, so education-wise very little difference.
