<p>Please present your arguments</p>
<p>Are you saying University of Pittsburgh? </p>
<p>I’m sorry but IMHO the winner is Michigan. UMich is much more well known worldwide, more respected, and IMO more challenging than Pitts in any major.</p>
<p>Of course I’m bias because I really haven’t learn much about U of Pittsburgh until this year (they don’t get much attention since UPenn is the big school in Penn).
And I live in Michigan</p>
<p>Are you in-state for either? Pitt offers guaranteed med school admission for a few incoming freshmen. Pitt is much smaller and there are some opportunities for undergraduate research. About 40 percent of the students entering Pitt are planning for a career in medicine (pharmacy, nursing, pre-med, pre-dentistry), though they do change their minds after biology and chemistry. In our experience, Pitt gave great merit money and Michigan offered $0. Pre-med is what you make of it, and you can major in almost anything. I think that the two schools have solid reputations, but very different environments.</p>
<p>out of state for both…i’m sure the medical center on campus at pitt is a plus as well…is premed extremely cutthroat at pitt?</p>
<p>cuthroat and Pitt dont go together in a sentence</p>
<p>I couldn’t speak to whether pre-med is cutthroat. The impression I have of Pitt is that it has more of a Midwestern practicality, which I love. Students who choose Pitt have had other options–many at more prestigious name schools–but they choose Pitt because they are interested in their own success, not beating out someone else. There is a difference between students who get top grades because they want to beat everyone else and those who get top grades because they are just smart and they do it with very little effort. I think Pitt attracts of fair number of students in the latter category. The latter students also are not usually blinded by rankings and status; those things are just not part of their personalities. They will do well anywhere because they love to learn. Now, I know this does not answer your original question, but perhaps it gives you a bit of an insight about Pitt. And UPenn is not the big Pennsylvania school, it is the Ivy. Penn State is big.</p>
<p>Michigan over Pitt for overall college experience. There I said it! Also, Michigan has a medical center right on campus. Is this the Michigan or Pitt board?</p>
<p>The more positive students MD Mom mentioned are also found very easily at UofM. As are the competitive ones… Go to the school that makes you happier.</p>
<p>Please note that I am not bad-mouthing Michigan in any way.</p>
<p>MD mom michigan is going to be very angry with you for the put downs</p>
<p>I would go with University of Michigan. It’s an excellent school and is very well respected by med schools. I personally know three people who got into ivy med schools from Michigan undergrad.</p>
<p>Oh I apologize if I made it seem that MD Mom was bad mouthing Michigan. I did not interpet it that way. I was just saying that both types of students she mentioned will be found at Michigan, or any school for that matter. So go with the school that you like better when you visit.</p>
<p>i think FordGT and MD Mom should fight…ha jk neither of you guys are offensive in the least bit good points by everyone i heard that pitt gives better financial aid though…any truth to this?</p>
<p>My daughter applied to both: great scholarship at Pitt, $0 at Michigan. My suggestion to you would be to apply to both. It is a pretty easy decision if your family isn’t independently wealthy and you are offered a nice scholarship. Think of it as saving your inheritance.</p>
<p>I have seen people post on here that Michigan offers nice scholarships, but that was not our experience. It seems that Michigan money goes more to in-state students, as it should be. The two schools are quite different. </p>
<p>For a while my daughter was interested in medicine, so being the hover mother that I am (I am working on getting beyond this), I often asked doctors where they went to school. Our doctors all work in the Hopkins system, so they did land pretty good jobs. One went to LAC in Illinois on full NMS school scholarship then to Wisconsin state medical school (don’t know which one); one went to James Madison then Maryland; the pediatrician went to Harvard undergrad–who knows where she went to med school? Anyway, my point is that I think people put way too much emphasis on the name and not on what they plan to invest (financially and mentally). </p>
<p>You should go to the school that makes you happier or the school that makes you an offer you can’t refuse.</p>
<p>Michigan has the number one undergraduate research program (UROP) and outstanding research funding. Additionally, U of M’s departments are some of the strongest in the nation, and the education you will receive at U of M in any department is excellent.</p>
<p>Since U of M has such an excellent medical school there is the opportunity to participate in biomedical research and shadow physicians. I would say that U of M offers everything a premed student could ever hope for, but that ambitious premeds will be the successful ones. In my opinion, UofM>>Pitt for premed.</p>