unc and georgetown

<p>I've been accepted into Georgetown's business school and into UNC (you go into business junior year). I want to study finance and international business. Whihc of the 2 would you choose considering UNC will be significantly cheaper (i get in state tuition)?</p>

<p>If money is an issue for your family, you can probably get solid loans OR FA from Georgetown if you desire it. However, instate tuition is a big boost. The schools are similar in quality, but Georgetown is going to have a better faculty-student ratio.</p>

<p>I personally would choose UNC, simply because the social life is more appealing to me. </p>

<p>Both are really good schools. Go with the better fit of the two. Don't let money be the big factor (because, like NewEng said, you could probably squeeze good aid out of Georgetown).</p>

<p>hellohi1: UNC's business school is ranked higher than Georgetown's, I believe. Also, Kenan-Flagler is ranked #10 in international business and #7 in Finance.</p>

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The BSBA Program is ranked No. 5 among U.S. public and private universities offering undergraduate business degree programs by U.S. News & World Report (August 2007). We rank 3rd among public campuses.</p>

<p>In the U.S. News & World Report specialty rankings areas, Kenan-Flagler ranks:</p>

<pre><code>* No. 4 in Management
* No. 4 in Marketing
* No. 7 in Operations Management
* No. 7 in Finance
* No. 10 in Accounting
* No. 10 in International Business
* No. 12 in Quantitative Analysis
* No. 13 in Entrepreneurship
* No. 15 in Real Estate
* No. 19 in Supply Chain/Logistics

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<p>UNC</a> Kenan-Flagler Business School : Career Services</p>

<p>UNC also has great recruiters: UNC</a> Kenan-Flagler Business School : Career Services</p>

<p>All this, and instate tuition-- seems like a no-brainer to me. :)</p>

<p>I would pick G'town because of its prestige and location, but go with your heart and where you think you will fit in.</p>

<p>Rankings only mean so much. I could, for example, cite US News' overall rankings, which are equally flawed: Georgetown 23rd, UNC is 28th.
And BusinessWeek: Georgetown is 11th, UNC is 15th.</p>

<p>But all the rankings are total B.S. anyway. You have to visit. Also, if you put any value in the SATs, compare those – Georgetown's range is 1290 to 1490, while UNC-Chapel Hill's range is 1200 to 1390.</p>

<p>unc's business school is ranked higher but georgetown seems to have better recruiting, which, really means georgetown is probably better</p>

<p>also georgetown will have stronger students, and IMO a MUCH MUCH MUCH better location.</p>

<p>Both are excellent choices academically. You can't go wrong either way.</p>

<p>Have you spent a night in a dorm at Georgetown, and sat in on some classes? If you haven't, be sure to try it. Get a feel for Georgetown. The atmosphere or personality of life on campus is going to be quite different from UNC. Where will you feel more comfortable? Which will be more fun for you? The shops and restaurants in the Georgetown neighboorhood are very cool. There is a lot of a capella singing at Georgetown. It really has a very different feel than UNC. Which is more "you"?</p>

<p>Since you are from NC you probably have a good feel for life at UNC. If you haven't gone to classes and spent a night at Georgetown yet, do it. You might find it feels perfect for you - or maybe not. </p>

<p>For the price, you want to be sure that you'd feel just as comfortable at Georgetown as you would at UNC - if not more so. </p>

<p>Two great choices. Good luck.</p>

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The shops and restaurants in the Georgetown neighborhood are very cool.

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<p>That's true, but can undergraduates afford to frequent those? </p>

<p>I do agree these schools are very different in feel. </p>

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unc's business school is ranked higher but georgetown seems to have better recruiting . . .

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<p>Could you provide a link to support that? I'm curious about the difference. Thanks. (I provided a link to UNC's recruiters above.)</p>

<p>Also, I think Georgetown's SFS program is fantastic, and is much more difficult to get into (is more selective) than applying simply to Georgetown-- which might be what helps to raise those SAT scores; nevertheless, you should definitely visit and sit in on classes, if you can. Then do the same at UNC and compare.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

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Could you post a link to support that? I'm curious about the difference.

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<p>Mercer visits g'town, but does not list jobs through UNC's career services</p>

<p>Mercer:</a> Consulting. Outsourcing. Investments.</p>

<p>Bain recruits at both, but Georgetown's page has more content and nearly 3x as many alumni:</p>

<p>Bain</a> & Company: School search</p>

<p>JP Morgan holds resume drops at UNC, but has both resume drops and events at Georgetown:</p>

<p>JPMorgan</a> - Campus Schedule</p>

<p>citigroup visits georgetown multiple times for multiple divisions but does not visit UNC:</p>

<p>Event</a> Calendar > North America</p>

<p>"Could you provide a link to support that? I'm curious about the difference. Thanks. (I provided a link to UNC's recruiters above.)"</p>

<p>BusinessWeek's UG business rankings are in a post of mine. They put G-Town above UNC.</p>

<p>elsijfdl: Citigroup absolutely does recruit from UNC as does JP Morgan as does Bain and Booz Allen Hamilton, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs. To suggest that these top companies don't recruit (and recruit for internships at the undergraduate level) at UNC is nonsense. </p>

<p>UNC</a> Kenan-Flagler Business School : Career Services</p>

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Citigroup absolutely does recruit from UNC

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<p>i didn't say they didn't recruit, i said they didn't visit</p>

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as does JP Morgan

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<p>i said they hold resume drops, but they don't host events</p>

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as does Bain

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<p>i said bain recruits there...</p>

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Booz Allen Hamilton

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<p>booz allen hamilton ONLY recruits at schools in the VA/Carolina area, it's a regional firm</p>

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To suggest that these top companies don't recruitat UNC is nonsense.

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you're right, that would have been, if i had said they didn't recruit. reading comprehension is an important skill: i said they don't recruit as heavily at UNC as they do at georgetown.</p>

<p>PS, try posting a working link next time</p>

<p>I'd go to UNC. If you're into business, I don't think your missing out on much by not being in DC. Plus, UNC is an awesome place. I didn't apply but I visited and I loved it. It's got everything academically so I don't think you need to worry about missing out on getting a top notch education by rejecting Gtown.</p>

<p>Plus, like others have mentioned, the social life at UNC is much more appealing. The students there are so down to earth, especially compared to Georgetown.</p>

<p>I was really hot on Gtown for a while but when I visited, I really did not like the place. The campus is gorgeous but the students were not my type. I sat in on a class and honestly, everyone seemed miserable. I got to the classroom early and watched everyone file in and in that thitry minutes before the professor walked in, no one said a word to each other. Very strange. </p>

<p>I think it significantly lags behind similarly presitgous schools in socio-economic diversity. Most of the kids were very well off, very privilaged and there seemed to be a large group of boarding school kids from New England. The typical UNC student is my type of person and I go there any day over Gtown.</p>

<p>elsijfdl: I provided a working link; it certainly works for me. If you can't get into it, then there's something wrong on your end. I would advise the OP to talk to folks at UNC, and go into the Kenan-Flagler page and look to see who recruits. (By the way, you didn't mention Goldman-Sachs. Do they recruit at Georgetown?) </p>

<p>You're going to have to provide some concrete support for your assertion, though, that "recruiting is better at Georgetown." Just because you think that, and obviously want to believe it, doesn't make it so. Sorry.</p>

<p>To the OP: I agree with tulsadem.^ Unless you wanted to get into the SFS at Georgetown, which is excellent and is much more selective than simply applying to Georgetown itself, I don't think it's worth the price differential (for you as an instate UNC student). Georgetown's location would be beneficial, IF you wanted to ultimately get a job/internships with the government. Otherwise, you absolutely cannot go wroing with UNC and its business school. It's ranked high and has great recruiters, and you're in the back yard of RTP. </p>

<p>UNC also has great study abroad options/programs, which I assume would be of interest to you, if you're focused on international business.</p>

<p>Again, I advise you to visit both schools, talk to people there, sit in on classes. Good luck.</p>

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You're going to have to provide some concrete support for your assertion, though, that "recruiting is better at Georgetown." Just because you think that, and obviously want to believe it, doesn't make it so. Sorry.

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<p>lol, this is almost too laughable to respond to. what did you provide? a faulty link? i linked to four different company websites in two different business fields all of which had a marked preference for georgetown graduates</p>

<p>if everyone at UNC has as large an insufficiency in comprehension and articulation skills as you, it's not surprising they are less preferred than places like g'town.</p>

<p>Perhaps this link will work for you: <a href="http://www.kenan-flagler.unc.edu/Companies/index.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.kenan-flagler.unc.edu/Companies/index.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>If not, all you have to do is Google UNC-CH Kenan Flagler, and look at the page for recruiting.</p>

<p>I did check one of your links, Bain (and didn't bother with the rest), and plugged in Univ of NC. Here's what your link said:</p>

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Welcome to Bain & Company's UNC page</p>

<p>As a graduate of UNC in 2005, I am excited by the chance to recruit more Tar Heels to join us at Bain. Over the last decade a number of Tar Heels have chosen to begin their careers with Bain, primarily in Atlanta, but also in other Bain offices worldwide, and we hope to provide you with all the information you need to decide if you would like to try to follow in their footsteps.</p>

<p>Associate Consultants at Bain play an important role in creating value for our clients, while enjoying a unique office and company culture and gaining valuable business experience. As you browse around this site you'll hear from several Carolina Alumni who are now at Bain. They will share some of the reasons they chose to begin their careers with us as well as what they've been doing since their time in Chapel Hill. Although each story will be different, some common threads will appear. You will hear about the challenging and varied work, the high responsibility levels, and, above all, the team of people that make Bain such an enjoyable place to work.</p>

<p>Please make a note of the various events that Bain will be holding at UNC over the next few months for both full-time opportunities and summer internships. We invite each of you to attend to learn more about our company and our recruiting process. Be sure to check this site periodically for updates on the fall and spring recruiting processes. We look forward to meeting you. To discover more about consulting and determine if Bain is truly a good fit for you, we encourage you to speak with our UNC alumnus. Feel free to contact us at any time. I hope to meet you at one of our events or maybe even on Franklin Street after another Tar Heel win.</p>

<p>Go Heels!</p>

<p>Mansoor Kazi
UNC Team Leader, Senior Associate Consultant

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<p>You're making the assumption that because the links (selective links you chose to provide) might show more alumni pictures for Georgetown than for UNC, that they naturally recruit more from Georgetown. I think it's safe to say that this is a faulty and flawed assumption. You need to look at who recruits at UNC (check out the page I provided) and at Georgetown, how many are recruited from each school, and also where students actually <em>choose</em> to go, either for internships or jobs at each school-- for an accurate and real comparison. </p>

<p>Good luck to you, elsijfdl. I think you're gonna need it. Bless your heart. ;)</p>

<p>To get this thread back on track.............................</p>

<p>HELLO - altho you live in NC - it certainly depends on what part of NC you live it - are you familiar with UNC personally - have you visited - stayed over - attended any classes?? If not - then I would recommend that you - if possible - visit BOTH schools and investigate just where you feel the best fit for your would be.</p>

<p>UNC and G'town are both excellent schools and will certainly provide you with a very good education - it just depends on where you are the most comfortable. UNC - being in-state - will leave you with alot less debt - which you may have to really take into account. UNC will give you the same/similar opportunities as G'town - basically because it will be up to you to seek those opportunities out.</p>

<p>I would strongly suggest that you visit and then compare your experiences and decide from there. Good luck to you - and congrats on both acceptances. :)</p>

<p>JeepMom: When one is looking at business schools, I do think that recruitment is a real factor and is, in fact, keeping this thread "on track." Kenan-Flagler lists the companies that recruit on their website. I can't find, for the life of me, anywhere that shows who recruits at McDonough. I'm sure good companies, do, but to suggest that the recruiting is stronger at Georgetown, is simply misleading. I also think that rankings are very useful, and UNC's Kenan-Flagler is consistently ranked higher than McDonough. I have no doubt it's a good business school, but by all accounts, it simply doesn't surpass Kenen-Flagler. Also, unless money is no object to the OP, the cost difference for a NC in-state student is quite substantial.</p>

<p>I agree (and stated so in my earlier posts), that the OP definitely needs to visit both, talk to people at both business schools, and sit in on classes. Again, good luck to the OP.</p>

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but to suggest that the recruiting is stronger at Georgetown, is simply misleading. I also think that rankings are very useful,

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<p>I did not suggest nor imply that this is the case!! But it is NOT all that the OP is looking for either - your opinion is one of several. The OP may actually be looking for other useful info and not just rankings and recruiting.</p>

<p>These 2 schools are not the end all in that field - but it will be personal preference - in many areas - that attract the OP - JMHO</p>

<p>Question for OP - are you up for any merit aid/scholarships or anything at all at either school?? That may be a determining factor - even tho you are a NC resident - G'town may be a good situation for you - new horizens and all that - and even better if the aid factors in at all.</p>