<p>Is Undeclared engineering the hardest "major" to get in among the specialized engineering majors such as bioengineering or ME, CE. </p>
<p>I'm getting mixed opinions.</p>
<p>How about biochemistry vs bioengineering? :)</p>
<p>If "getting in" is all you care about a college, then you're not right for Berkeley. You apply to the colleges to further YOUR learning of the subject, NOT to find an easy way through.</p>
<p>Regrading the question, ionno! :)</p>
<p>haha thanks.. i was just wondering what majors are more competitive and if transfering isgoing to be hard. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bioengineering. Just heard thats its been pretty competitive lately. So is EECS.</p>
<p>Our BioE program is a piece of ****. Do not do it</p>
<p>ORLY? do you have specifics? information on other majors involving engineering, biology, etc.</p>
<p>from what ive observed its undecl eng > eecs > bioe > ???</p>
<p>Like it's said above, please don't do BioE at Cal. Just don't. It is probably the most horrible program on campus.</p>
<p>I know I've said this many times, but please excuse me again in order to save another soul from this farce.</p>
<p>How so? What would you recommend if not bioe . I kinda wrote about it in my essay =/</p>
<p>Here's a report that contains information about this: <a href="http://academic-senate.berkeley.edu/committees/pdf_docs_consolidate/Hout_Report.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://academic-senate.berkeley.edu/committees/pdf_docs_consolidate/Hout_Report.pdf</a></p>
<p>As you may see from this, Undeclared is statistically the hardest to get into (it requires the best admissions score to have a 100% chance to get into). Details for other majors may be found in the analysis as well.</p>
<p>IB, MB, MEB, MCB,...</p>
<p>There are like 17 bio majors on campus.</p>
<p>I've heard ChemE in the CoC is very similar to BioE, but a lot better</p>
<p>Er, how is the BioE program "horrible"? I've heard that accreditation was a problem, but it's still a top program. For example:</p>
<p>Er, have you been in the program itself? They know neither how and what to teach in BioE. So all the classes are composed a hodgepodge of random ****s.</p>
<p>The ranking means nothing. Reality does not run according to it. And I suspect this ranking is for graduate programs. If Berkeley is #8, I'm pretty sure all the other programs in the country suck.</p>
<p>And now, accreditation is probably the last thing you want to worry about.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Unless you're a premed who doesn't want to major in biology, don't go to bioE.</p>
<p>there's nothing wrong with majoring in BioE, but don't do it for the wrong reasons. if you have other plans afterwards, then there's no problem, but if you want a hardcore engineering job, the curriculum doesnt adequately prepare you. it should be better now that theyve redesigned the curriculum (the main track, not the premed track, that is), but theyve havent gone as drastic as JHU or UCSD in assigning engineering content, so the criticism of bioE as a major in general still applies. now if youre really interested in the topic and don't plan to become an engineer right away, then go for it. the flexibility in the curriculum will allow you to choose the classes you want, and a good no. of upper div classes are graded very leniently (A- centered curve).</p>