<p>Hey slipper1234.....For my senior year, would you recommend taking AP Statistics or AP Macroeconomics?</p>
<p>DN, I presume you are aware that even with your senior standing, you still need to put in two years or more if you want to go for an engineering or BBA degree in college. Chances are you haven't taken any engineering core courses... and I know of no one who can get a BS in engineering in less than two years. And if you don't have all the necessary distribution requirements, you may need to put in more time.</p>
<p>If you want to go for an MBA eventually, you should plan to take all the pre-business requirements with your undergraduate degree ... that is, micro- and macro-economics, financial and managerial accounting, and may be a course in statistics.</p>
<p>Hey patiently waiting, I am getting my MBA. Read the posts.</p>
<p>Go Blue, I agree 100%. Those classes (stats, calc, econ) are very much looked at by top programs, as well as basic accounting. After that they give as much weight to business majors as econ majors.</p>
<p>Bestmiler, for getting into a undergrad business school both are great courses, and are often core for business programs. Honestly, they are equally important.</p>
<p>D_N, good question. Here is the thing, if you go to Carlson and save the 100K make sure you are at the top of your class of you are going to go for corporate type jobs. Although while there might not be that many Minnesota grads at the top MBA programs, of course there are some and those are the ones who stand out within the program and secure good jobs. An Ivy or top b-school grad has the benefit of not having to perform at as high a level in their class to secure the same job. But if you are one of the top students, no way will Minnesota prevent you from anything. If they were both free I would go to Penn College in a heartbeat, but the top students from lesser schools do great.</p>
<p>"DN, I presume you are aware that even with your senior standing, you still need to put in two years or more if you want to go for an engineering or BBA degree in college. Chances are you haven't taken any engineering core courses... and I know of no one who can get a BS in engineering in less than two years. And if you don't have all the necessary distribution requirements, you may need to put in more time.</p>
<p>If you want to go for an MBA eventually, you should plan to take all the pre-business requirements with your undergraduate degree ... that is, micro- and macro-economics, financial and managerial accounting, and may be a course in statistics."</p>
<p>I'm not sure which post of mine this is directed towards, but I just posed an engineering degree as a possibility. Engineering was my previous top choice, but I have since changed my mind.</p>
<p>In regards to getting my degree in two years or less... I do not expect that at all. Degrees, especially engineering and business, usually take 5 years. I will have earned about 70 credits by the time I graduate this year, but most colleges outside of MN won't even accept these credits and others accept only some. In MN all colleges are required to accept these classes except for the theological classes I had to take to fulfill my high school requirements.</p>
<p>So, I may go to a prestigious college and be willing to throw out all of my credits. On the other hand, I may stay in MN and graduate a year or a year and a half early, but by no means do I want to rush my college experience. I may even double major and spread my classes out so that I can stay four years. Most of the credits I have earned have been chosen for the specific reason that they will fulfill the gen ed requirements at the U of M and hopefully in other places.</p>
<p>So I am faced with a huge dilemma. I can stay in MN and graduate early or I could stay in MN and do a double major and graduate with the other students in my class or I could go to a more prestigious college which will probably not accept my credits and graduate in the 4-5 years.</p>
<p>I'll just have to wait and see what type of merit aid I get and where I get accepted.</p>
<p>Hey slipper, just a couple of quick questions...</p>
<p>do you know if tulane students get recruited much by the big investment banking/consultancy firms? also what's tulane's name recognition like within corporate america? after all it's down south which is obviously nowhere near the financial epicenter of america.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>Tulane obviously does well in the south, but its similar to minnesota in that they expect more of a standout than at an Ivy. Alot of the 'second tier' consulting and banking firms such as PWC, Accenture, Bear Sterns etc are great and totally recruit at Tulane. The top top, such as BCG, venture capital firms, etc, don't. But honestly if you go to Tulane and do a great job and then go to one of the firms that recruit there, you will be very well poised to go to a top grad school.</p>
<p>Here's what it boils down to:</p>
<p>For top consulting/ banking/ venture capital/ overall...
Ivy-level Econ or Wharton> top B-school > lesser b-school > no-name econ</p>
<p>For Marketing/ Media/ Retail:
Top B-school> lesser b-school> Ivy Econ> non-name econ</p>
<p>For Entrepreneurship:
Hard to pinpoint, some Ivy grads make it big, other high school drop-outs do. For those looking to hedge their bets by working and getting an MBA before starting a company, Ivy every time. Better networks period. For those looking to start right up immediately, business school is better. </p>
<p>BTW- One theory on why there are so many Ivy grads who are rich fund managers but less entrepreneurs is that the Ivy grad is forgoing a top job and therefore has a higher opportunity cost to start the next McDonalds, as opposed the the drop-out who has much less to risk.</p>
<p>hey slipper1234.....what college has a good undergraduate program for entrepreneurship majors?</p>
<p>slipper you say econ is a good major, but lets compare two non ivy yet extremely good schools, washington university in st. louis vs. university of chicago, both excellent but is chicago the best undergrad econ? that is what i am hearing</p>
<p>"For top consulting/ banking/ venture capital/ overall...
Ivy-level Econ or Wharton> top B-school > lesser b-school > no-name econ"</p>
<p>I disagree. I rather get a no-name econ degree, than a no name business school degree. I am currently working on my degree in Managerial Economics, at a decent school, not great but decent, UCDavis. But this is really a no-name econ school, since it is not famous for its econ department. But I hate to think my degree is worth less than some degree from a low level Cal-State Business school. For my degree I learn everything that an econ major would learn, plus a lot of extra Managerial courses.</p>
<p>Slipper,</p>
<p>Do you really have to get an MBA to go far in the first or second tier firms? What if i just want to work right out of college and never go back to school, would tulane be good enough for such an option?</p>
<p>I think everyone in hear owes slipper a really big thank you. he has answered everyones questions to the best of his knowledge and even shed some new insight on many different things. so i personally would like to thank you slipper for helping answer everysingle one of the questions directed at you in this forum :)</p>
<p>ditto......</p>
<p>Thanks guys!</p>
<p>Okay 1st Bestmiler, honestly it depends on where you want to live/ what you want to do. For example, MIT and Wharton are the best overall because they have great networks and entrep programs. MIT will put you around of alot of good technology people. UCLA, Berkeley, UVA, Michigan etc are all amazing. The thing here is it sort of depends on where you want to live. If you want to live in california and be an entrepreneur than UCLA/ UCB/ USC are great, because all the people in that area will know the program. Michigan is great for the midwest/ chicago and northeast. Babson is the one X-factor because it is so focused on entrepreneurship. If I wanted to work at a company I would not choose it over the other programs with better names. But for a pure entrepreneur who wants to start a business, Babson has built the infrastructure so that it can become very helpful. </p>
<p>Farbdogg, at that level (Chicago vs. WUSTL) it doesnt make a difference except chicago grads might get an edge when it comes to applying for grad schools since they seem to have a better overall reputation. But WUSTL is quickly gaining so its becoming much less relevant. Chicago has a great MBA program but WUSTL has undergrad business. Its a toss-up.</p>
<p>Sixtysix, there are PLENTY of people who never go back to get their MBA, and often people even wonder why they do go back. MBAs work for career switchers and those looking to jump-start careers. But honestly its not a pre-requisite. From Tulane IF you can manage to do well you will be in the position to get a great job and B-school will not be necessary. Once again though, Tulane has a much higher presence in the south than the northeast.</p>
<p>Like the others have said, you've been a great help!:) it's helpful people like you who make CC what it is!</p>
<p>Slipper after reading how helpfull you have been, I am hoping you can help me with my problem. My Uni requires that we submit a study plan listing all classes we plan to take for our major. For me this is due by the end of December. I have been trying for 2 years to decide which 4 core Econ I want from a certain list. Can you please tell me from this list which would be the most helpfull in finding a job, and helpfull in a job I would find. </p>
<p>1.Economic Development (Economy of developing (poor) Nations)
2. Cooperative Business Enterprises
3. International Commodity and Resource Markets
4. Futures and Options Markets
5. Investments
6. Real Estate Economics
7. Government Regulation of Business<br>
8. Introduction to Mathematical Economics (Multivariate Calculus and Linear Algebra in Econ).</p>
<p>So I need to pick 4 from this list. </p>
<p>Those are my choices. I really don't know which ones I should take that will be the most helpfull. What do you think I should take.</p>
<p>hey slipper i just got an offer from the university of manchester in england to read law there... it's one of the top 10 in the UK. do you think it would be a viable transistion from law school to investment banking? i mean... some of the skills are pretty transferrable. law is an undergrad degree in the uk by the way....</p>
<p>sixty</p>
<p>To get into higher level positions you most certainly need an MBA. I agree that it isn't worth a whole lot in terms of academics, but it's just the fact that you have one that will move you up the ladder. Especially for investment banking, there's virtually no chance to become an associate without an MBA. And if you ever want to get into general management in a big company.</p>