Undergrad Business School Ivy League!

<p>I would have put Texas, UNC and CMU before Cornell or Georgetown.</p>

<p>Virginia’s placement is similar to Texas (even excluding Texas’ long-standing status as favorite in accounting: [Undergraduate</a> business specialties: Accounting - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/spec-accounting]Undergraduate”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/spec-accounting)) so it shouldn’t be put THAT far ahead. In rankings on perception in finance, Texas, CMU and UNC are comparable or slightly better than Virginia ([Undergraduate</a> business specialties: Finance - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/spec-finance]Undergraduate”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/spec-finance)). All three of the ones I mentioned have a leg up on Cornell and Georgetown in both placement stats and perception rankings.</p>

<p>Sorry but as an international, NYU and UVA are overrated. Hass too to an extent. From having read the curriculum modules and graduate recruitment, top 3 would be Penn, MIT and Michigan (in whichever order). MIT’s rather ruthless in promoting its image (ffs IIT in India is much more impossible to get into but you don’t see their name everywhere and also due to its very quantitative slant) and Penn due to its alumni and also Wharton’s the only selling point with this ivy. Michigan is very all rounded.</p>

<p>For those who have not looked at the Methodology closely, from the US News site:</p>

<p>"For our undergraduate business school rankings, U.S. News surveyed deans and senior faculty at each undergraduate business program accredited by the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB). Business school deans and faculty (two at each AACSB-accredited business program) were surveyed for this ranking in spring 2010.</p>

<p>Participants were asked to rate the quality of all programs they were familiar with on a scale of 1 (marginal) to 5 (distinguished). The undergraduate business school rankings are based SOLELY on the results of this peer survey; 42 percent of those surveyed responded. </p>

<p>We also asked for nominations of the best programs in business specialty areas; those receiving the most mentions in each area appear here ranked in descending order. The rankings of the best undergraduate business programs in a specialty area also are based solely on the spring 2010 peer survey. Schools offering any courses in a specialty are eligible to be ranked in that specialty. Schools did not have to have a program or major in a specialty area in order to be ranked in that specific specialty area."</p>

<p>BW Rankings on the hand include Recruiter Reviews and Rankings. Additionally, BW also gives weight to past 2 years’ ratings, so it is probably a more solid indicator since Response Rates on these surveys are about 50% at best, and the responders vary from year to year.</p>

<p>Finally, if there is no weight at all to the Students Reviews in the ratings, then I don’t get it.</p>

<p>If you believe what Business Schools and the Business World preaches, then the Recruiters and the Students are the customers, not the Faculty (who will definitely weigh Research and Publications in their ratings, but this does not mean much in the real world to either the Recruiters or the Students).</p>

<p>Finally, how about Class Size? Percentage of Classes taught by TA’s etc.? BW also includes this. </p>

<p>In conclusion, as someone who has an MBA and has recruited thousands of execs in the real world for large multinational in $100K jobs, I think some of you may be missing the bulls eye…Just my 2 cents, take is for what’s it’s worth…not claiming it is much, just A POV!</p>

<p>I like how even Alexandre missed out Olin Business School of WUSTL. While it may not in the Top 10, Olin is easily on par with, or even better than Tepper and Kelley.</p>

<p>You’re not giving Tepper or Kelley enough credit…</p>

<p>Kelley destroys Olin at investment banking placement thanks to its elite Ibanking workshop. Tepper students are heavily recruited into S&T positions for BBs, top prop shops, and market makers. Olin, though not bad at all, has nothing special going for it other than the selectivity of admissions creating a good talent pool.</p>

<p>Career placements for Olin, though competitive, are a hair shy of Kelley and Tepper. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.olin.wustl.edu/docs/WCC/EmploymentBSBA.pdf[/url]”>http://www.olin.wustl.edu/docs/WCC/EmploymentBSBA.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/students_alumni/post-grad-survey/pdf/BA.pdf[/url]”>http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/students_alumni/post-grad-survey/pdf/BA.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I will only have 6 schools in my list:</p>

<p>Wharton
Sloan
Ross
Haas
Stern
McIntire</p>

<p>The rest are not quite on par anymore.</p>

<p>Agree on weighing recruiter feedback more heavily than peer reviews from academics.</p>

<p>There also has to be some cost adjustment. This is less an issue for actual Ivies because they offer need based FA, but most undergrad business schools don’t. NYU in particular comes to mind. Babson will also burn a hole in your savings account for state school returns. Some will argue that costs don’t matter for finance majors (because everyone is getting that banking job), but I beg to differ. I know a ton of people who spent 1 or 2 years on the BBA track and then opted for something else, in the process piling up a nice amount of debt.</p>