<p>Can you provide the numbers for The University of The Virgin Islands</p>
<p>and the University of Florida? Thanks!</p>
<p>Great information, Sakky!</p>
<p>Is it possible for you to find the University of Cambridge?</p>
<p>On another note, would experience in various countries (China, Canada, UK, US) greatly boost your admission chances all else remains the same?</p>
<p>Sakky brings up an oftentimes underexplored point. Bravo.</p>
<p>I know that I, for one, would much rather go to school in CA than MA. I realize that Harvard may have that name brand, but it also has harsh winters. </p>
<p>Harsh winters can really be a deal breaker for me, unless there's an income involved. School has to be in the sun. Work can be in the shade, cold, heat, etc. for all I care.</p>
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<p>And of course it is also true that other people would prefer MA over CA. I've found California to be polarizing: some people like it and others hate it.<br>
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<p>Harsh winters can really be a deal breaker for me, unless there's an income involved. School has to be in the sun. Work can be in the shade, cold, heat, etc. for all I care.
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<p>Well, to be fair, I think I should point out that HBS has a complete tunnel system. If you live in the HBS dorms (which most of the students do), you literally never have to step outside for a single minute of the entire winter if you don't want to. Everything you need is accessible through the tunnels: the dorms, the classrooms, the campus restaurants, the gym, the store, the post office, the recruiting center, everything, even a bar. That's why, even in the dead of winter, you will still see HBS students milling around wearing shorts because they never actually have to go outside. </p>
<p>Heck, in a certain way, one could argue that that's even better than Berkeley or Stanford. After all, let's face it, the Bay Area is sometimes very rainy and messy. If you need to go to class during a downpour, or you want to go to the bar for a beer, you're basically forced to put on a wetsuit and navigate your way through a waterfall. HBS students can just put on a T-shirt and take the tunnels. </p>
<p>{Now, to be fair, if you like hanging around outdoors, or you like going to town, then yes, you will have to brave the Boston elements. In those cases, California is better.} </p>
<p>But besides, as far as an MBA program is concerned, this is just 2 years of your life. Actually, it's less, because you come in September, you leave in May, and you get the intervening summer off, and you get month-long winter breaks off, so, really, it's only 16 months of your life. That's really not that long. After you're done, nobody is forcing you to stay in Boston. You are free to move to wherever you want in the world. </p>
<p>So, really, the only 'problem' is that you have to put up with 2 winters, of which after subtracting that winter break away, basically leaves a total of perhaps 4-5 months of bad weather to deal with (which, as I said, is partially ameliorated by the tunnel system). That's not very much. I would say that if you can't deal with even 4-5 months of bad weather in your whole life, I don't know what to tell you. There are a lot of things in life that are a lot harder than dealing with just 4-5 months of bad weather.</p>
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So, really, the only 'problem' is that you have to put up with 2 winters, of which after subtracting that winter break away, basically leaves a total of perhaps 4-5 months of bad weather to deal with
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<p>That depends what you consider bad weather. Some of us consider anything under 60 degrees bad weather...and anything under 70 degrees uncomfortable.</p>
<p><em>blinks</em> But then Haas is uncomfortable all year round.</p>
<p>^lol..that's why many peoople say san francisco is "cold".</p>
<p>sakky,</p>
<p>That's probably true. But not everyone wants to give up 2 years of their lives for Boston. Sure, it may just be a minor inconvenience in your mind, but for you, the utility of the Harvard brand is incredibly important. For others, not so much.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that I'm actually moving to the East Coast, so I'm not that against that cold. I just don't see why people move themselves to places they hate for school (UofC comes to mind for a few of my friends.)</p>
<p>Yeah yeah, I know... "But your career! The returns! Money money money! Eh. I'd rather be able to go down to Santa Monica or PB with friends in December and complain about how it's too hot. That's living, to me."</p>
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<p>That's horrible. I guess I should add that to my list of reasons why I would hate to live in California.</p>
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<p>It is! That would be a great city if it wasn't for the location. Cold and gloomy and rainy..ugh.</p>
<p>HBS has tunnels? that is so baller. I love it.</p>
<p>Do you only have undergrad representation at HBS? I'd love to know what the undergrad representation is at Wharton. I'm trying to figure out if being a Penn grad helps or hurts me in the process...</p>
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That depends what you consider bad weather. Some of us consider anything under 60 degrees bad weather...and anything under 70 degrees uncomfortable.
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<p>And on the other hand, other people actually enjoy a change of season. That is in fact precisely one of the reasons I have heard some people leave California. </p>
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That's probably true. But not everyone wants to give up 2 years of their lives for Boston.
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<p>That strikes me as simply bizarre, although I admit that's a personal opinion of mine. Boston, at least to me, is clearly one of the most interesting cities in the world. It's like a smaller-scale version of New York, but arguably even better than New York because of the larger proportion of students. </p>
<p>I say that having experienced California. Let's face it, there are many uninteresting places in California. For example, San Jose, and heck, the entire South Bay/Silicon Valley is boring. It's a great place to work, it's a great place to start a company, but from a recreational and cultural standpoint, it is stultifying. </p>
<p>And I'm not the only one saying it. Here's what essayist Paul Graham had to say:</p>
<p>"For all its power, Silicon Valley has a great weakness: the paradise Shockley found in 1956 is now one giant parking lot. San Francisco and Berkeley are great, but they're forty miles away. Silicon Valley proper is soul-crushing suburban sprawl."</p>
<p>How</a> to Be Silicon Valley</p>
<p>But in any case, what I am saying is that if you had to give up 2 years of your life, Boston is far from a terrible place to do it. I can think of plenty of far far worse places in which to give up 2 years of your life. Like, frankly, Palo Alto. {My brother went to Stanford and he freely admits that Palo Alto is boring. If you're a rich venture capitalist or tech entrepreneur, Palo Alto is great, but if you're just a poverty-stricken student, Palo Alto ain't that nice.}</p>
<p>The point is, it's not about the "Harvard brand". Put Harvard aside. Put all schools aside. Forget about being a student, and let's just talk about lifestyle. From a personal standpoint, I would say that living in Boston is more pleasant than living in San Jose. Or any part of Silicon Valley for that matter. And I say that knowing that, for professional reasons, I probably will end up living in Silicon Valley over the long term. </p>
<p>Besides, look at it this way. Like I said, I think that Boston is a very nice place to be, but even if you disagree, look, the truth is, your career will always make you put up with conditions that you don't really like. For example, I don't think any of those newly minted investment bankers really likes working 90 hours a week. I don't think any soldier actually enjoys boot camp. Life is not always about doing what you like. Sometimes you gotta do things you don't like in order to later get to do the things you do like. That's life. That's why our parents taught us to value hard work and delayed gratification even if we don't like it.</p>
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<p>Sorry, I don't have that. You'll have to ask others.</p>
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GaTech, like all tech schools, churns out lots and lots of engineers. Engineers tend to disproportionately attend B-school.
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<p>That's true and I forgot they are not small (for some reason I kept thinking it's a private, maybe because of MIT/CalTech, lol!).</p>
<p>Sakky, any possibility of getting the number for Miami of Ohio and Ohio University?</p>
<p>I hate to bring back an old topic, but does anyone have the #'s for Carnegie Mellon?</p>
<p>Carnegie-Mellon = 88
Miami (OH) = 77
Ohio University = 42</p>
<p>Thanks sakky! </p>
<p>A little disappointed by CMU's # though, I was expecting a bit more, atleast 100+. Anyone know why? I realize they only have around 5500 students (undergrad) but was expecting a bit more for an engineering powerhouse.</p>
<p>I just got the following numbers for Kellogg from a CC member that went to Kellogg:</p>
<p>Class of 2009 (all programs including MMM, JD, MD, Part-time, 1Y, 2Y):</p>
<p>Northwestern - 23
Harvard - 12
Princeton - 11
Yale - 5
Brown - 5
Dartmouth - 9
Cornell - 11
UPENN - 19
Columbia - 13
Chicago - 6
Duke - 14
Michigan - 18
Stanford - 15</p>