<p>This week is the recruiting week for some of the BizFrats I'm looking into - Delta Sigma Pi and Beta Alpha Psi - so I'll be busy going into some of the events they are promoting. Also, tomorrow (Wednesday) night is when UBS's Investment Banking Night Takes place.</p>
<p>I have some questions regarding these organizations:</p>
<p>1.) How hard is it to get bids for the Business Fraternities?</p>
<p>2.) I heard UBS membership is somewhere along 4,000, so I'm afraid joining UBS will only make me "a member in name only" and won't really actually get to experience and develop intimate relationship with the members there. Like, you are pretty much on your own even if you join it, and the organization won't really get to help you privately. Are my assumptions correct? Is UBS worth joining?</p>
<p>3.) I have accounting class with Ravetch. I dunno if you've ever heard about him, but whenever I tell anyone about it, they all tell me good luck cuz he's known to be notoriously difficult. I also take Calc III and Econ class. Would joing Business Fraternity really be too much for me? I heard the pledging period is quite busy (same time consumption level as taking a challenging course?</p>
<p>1) They like to grill you. I had a friend who pledged for DSP and they asked him how many airplanes he thought were flying at that moment. So it's pretty cold and a bit random. Must think on your feet. Pledging is fine but the interviewing will stab you to death. </p>
<p>2) UBS is a pretty general organization. It's more like you get on their mailing list and they give you a set of resources or tell you what's going on. It's not really close-knit or anything. </p>
<p>3) Well, first is the few events at the beginning that help you get to know the frat. Afterwards, assuming you get a bid, it'll take a good amount of time in terms of projects or whatever they have you slave for. I think that during the pledging process (before getting the bid) that you'll get an idea of what it entails. After that, you'd have gotten an idea of what Calc III and Econ would require. It just depends on the person in terms of balancing things.</p>
<p>Yes, definitely worth looking into. FBLA will teach you general skills like leadership, working in teams, interview and resume skills, and so on. It's not like the business fraternities - it's more like a bunch of competitions with different areas of focus (just look it up). You don't necessarily have to be a business major to be in FBLA. Definitely go to one of their meetings to see if it's for you. I went to one last year and it's pretty chill. Anyone can join. It's more of a club rather than the close-knittedness/brotherhood aspects of the business frats... which are not solely or strictly networking or professional related. The people are really nice and friendly. Not cut-throat or anything. FBLA is not one of the most established groups at UCLA though. They are trying to expand/grow.</p>
<p>AKPsi and DSP are similar in their interviewing procedures. I don't know about BAP. I was under the impression that BAP was more of an honors society.
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143 DSP and AKPsi are just asian frats under a different name if you ask me...
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From a previous post, I believe SpicyRoll has made evident his tastes towards Asian fraternities/sororities. :rolleyes:
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I agree that UBS and FBLA are a bit more resourceful in aiding you. The frats offer a more socially inclined experience.
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Well, yeah the business fraternities offer something more than UBS and FBLA. I'd argue for more cohesion. UBS is an overarching list-serv-esque organization. FBLA does something completely different from that of the business frats - it has a specific goal in terms of its competitions and will help aid you in what you want to pursue in regards to the softer things like interviewing skills, and so forth. It is not its immediate aim but provides those benefits. The business frats are not specifically tailored to that either - still, you can't make the comparison between pledging DSP and *joining<a href="not%20going%20through%20the%20bidding%20process">/i</a> FBLA. There's the social aspects... network aspects... and of course professional aspects of DSP/other business frats to consider. UBS is incredibly resourceful if you take advantage of all of its opportunities under the sun. FBLA I would argue more for club activities and then the side-benefits in terms of job-related skills and selling yourself. Finally, the business frats for a more comprehensive and close-knit experience tinged with the social aspects and, of course, future networking/professional goals. </p>
<p>In sum, I would go ahead and pledge to see if I liked it.
I would stay on the UBS list-serv or whatever for future reference.
I would also check out other business-esque organizations like FBLA among others to see if I liked it.
In regards to balance, I'd remove things that were unnecessary or that I did not like. Few returns.</p>
<p>Thanks mme.
Social experience for me is a great priority. This doesn't mean I'm looking for some social frats/clubs where majority of the time are spent in "social" events (partying, clubbin', etc.); I want to join something that's not too big (membership less than 100 preferred) yet somewhat prestigious and/or shows a sense of professionalism and can be of great benefit for me. I don't want to join some gigantic organization where I become a mere number and don't really get to do much ("attend meeting, listen to the presentation/lecture, then go home"-type of clubs, UBS being an example).</p>
<p>I'll look into FBLA then. Just checked out their website and looked interesting.
So the best thing for me atm is to join UBS (as a reference purpose) and go to FBLA to see if I like it and join it incase I do not get bid for any of the BizFrats. </p>
<p>Any of you know of any other Business Organization that might be worth looking into?</p>
<p>Well, it's OK to do FBLA the same time as the BizFrats. Most of the commitment that comes with FBLA is seasonal (competitions). I don't know how strong FBLA is right now. I went to a meeting and there were some 20-odd members. That and I must admit it's a very relaxed environment. I' think you'd benefit A LOT MORE from being in a business fraternity, dhl3. FBLA ~ club =/= frat.</p>