<p>I asked that in the 2012 post and someone just said to stay away from them. Could someone be nice to explain why or pm me with why I should stay away from joining a Wharton Fraternity? Could you give your own opinion on whether it is advisable to join a Wharton Fraternity? Thanks</p>
<p>When I visited, the pledges did NOT look happy. Apparently they're really intense. Like, 3AM meetings that are mandatory, taking up lots of time with stupid tasks, and lots of other stuff that's just NOT worth it. It's too much for most to deal with, especially combined with the other stress/pressure of your first year in college.</p>
<p>I'm assuming you mean business frat instead of wharton frats.
To add the poster above me, some of their tasks are really stupid, like doing a brother's homework.
I also got the idea that these frats aren't really as business-related as they may seem. If you wanna do business stuff - there are plenty of clubs. If you wanna drink and party - there are plenty of frats.
Combining the two doesn't really appeal to me.</p>
<p>when i asked my friend at wharton (who is currently in sigma alpha epsilon), he said "yeah... basically the rushing is 'let's get trashed at 4AM... hey make a business plan'... i don't know about you but i thought that was kind of stupid."</p>
<p>i think that sums it up.</p>
<p>Is this akpsi?</p>
<p>DSP, AKPsi, and PGN are the business frats. They're not "Wharton" frats. As neutral said - there's clubs for business activities, and frats for social activities. You shouldn't try to mix the two.</p>
<p>I really want to go to Wharton. It is probably my first choice. But i also really want to make my college experience fun. I am a little worried that Wharton is too pre-professional and that I won't be truly experiencing college. I like Penn in part bc it is considered the social ivy and i am def a social kid. is wharton really intense? Bc im a very smart kid but i would much rather enjoy college than get a really prestigious degree. i am the kinda kid that drinks and smokes alot, so is wharton not exactly my crowd?</p>
<p>wharton is part of Penn. So Wharton is also a social place.
Not a lot of people smoke but drinking is pretty big on campus. There are several opportunities if you're big on partying.</p>
<p>I'd disagree -- plenty of people smoke if you know where to look.</p>
<p>As for the business frats, don't bother. It's like trying to eat filet mignon a la mode. Some things should just be enjoyed standalone, because otherwise you combine things that shouldn't be combined and wind up with something less than the sum of its parts.</p>
<p>But if you mix the two, can't the end result be good as well? In terms of making friends, if you have to work with a group of people for so many hours then don't you get "closer" than if you just bonded with people over lots of partying? Whereas for regular clubs, yes perhaps you can get connections but it'd be in a more professional atmosphere, rather than a "hey we're all best friends willing to help each other out on important stuff."</p>
<p>I'm not trying to defend them necessarily (I'm not in one...not going to join one) but I just question everyone's complete dislike of them).</p>
<p>I'm not at Wharton, but I'm in a business fraternity and a social fraternity at another school, and I can say that I've gotten more out of the business fraternity. I mean I like to go out and drink and stuff, but I've definitely feel that being in a professional fraternity helped me mature and become more focused. I don't know. I don't know, but hearing about Penn, I feel like you can still party and not have to be devoted entirely to the business fraternity. All I'm trying to say is that it is good networking.</p>
<p>Are their any fraternities that are good for making friends and networking? I was hoping that a business fraternity might be like that. If it's silly b<em>lls</em> _ t, then I don't see how it can be worthwhile. Thanks everyone. More input would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Came across this post through google, anyway I'm in a business frat at another school also, we're pretty new on campus (I'm the first pledge class which is from last spring). I absolutely love it. I wasn't interested in traditional greek life but I feel like I get the best of both worlds, amazing brotherhood aspects with all of the guys and girls in my frat, professional events and opportunities, a lot of fundraising and community service events, tons of social events, etc. Not everyone is a business major, but most are. Joining this frat has been the best thing I've done in college and I wish it got started a year or two earlier so I could have joined earlier as opposed to only being in it for 2 years. </p>
<p>Highly recommend it, but definitely check out rush events for all types of frats once you're there.</p>
<p>terpfan, would you happen to go to the Smith School of Business at UMD? (I went to high school in md)</p>
<p>I feel like the kind of campus/univ. you go to gives varying and large differences in how organizations like frats are perceived. So if you go a very large school, a focused organization like a business frat may be better received than at other places. At a place like Penn, where there is an over abundunce of student groups, especially in business, a business frat may receive different reactions.</p>
<p>fyi, if you've seen those people carrying around egg cartons, it is for a business frat. Not sure about the purpose but they are allowed to carry marshmallows once in Huntsman.</p>
<p>in terms of relative stupidity, what social frats have pledges do are far more useless than what business frats have their pledges do.<br>
no, one does not do another brother's hw in a business frat. even if they did, social frats have their pledges clean the house and go pick up groceries/food.
and realize that there are numerous kids in both business AND social frats.</p>
<p>so in conclusion, if you like the idea of a social frat, then you should be fine with the idea of a business frat.</p>
<p>yes, but the idea of a college fraternity is to foster social bonds in college and enjoy life.</p>
<p>i dont care how many parties aksi throws in sheity hamco apts, or how many gia prontos they own on campus. they are becoming more and more tinged with obsessive compulsive (asian) preproffesionalism. it's too intense and seemingly desperate that they are trying to claw their way to job offers before everyone else.</p>
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<p>you'd be surprised how many kids rushing social frats do so for connections.</p>
<p>In addition, I think you only have the right to accuse students who pledge business frats of career-oriented intensity if you are in one and can speak from personal experience. Other than that, your opinion is worth as much as that of a scholar that uses wikipedia as a source.</p>
<p>i infact use wikipedia for scholarly purposes, as do most successful pre-med students at penn.</p>
<p>I'm not questioning the ends of why people rush different frats, its the means. Granted, I'm not a huuuge fan of social frats either. normally, a business frat is okay, but most business fratters take themselves too seriously. I am intense about my chosen career but I am not going to bandwagon onto other people's efforts, subject myself to needless hazing, all for the purpose of bolstering my resume.</p>
<p>I've witness enough 'pledging' in both social and business frats to realize that both are just about the same degrading. However, degrading yourself so you can have fun(in moderation) in college is one thing, degrading yourself to bolster an otherwise uninspiring resume/personality just to prepare for a job you probably arent going to enjoy/be good at is another.</p>
<p>so all students in business frats are now uninspiring and boring personality wise?
what if you want a group of students that don't do coke all day, or smoke pot during the weekends. What if you're not into the party scene, what if you don't like to get drunk every weekend. But what if you want a group of students who are still nice, who care about each other, and support each other. You're now going to say that merely because busienss frats focus on students that study business, it's now a superficial organization of students? I feel that you stick to an unfair stereotype that business students solely seek money.
also, i highly suggest you look at some kids in business frats. personally, i know a substantial amount of students who i promise you need absolutely no "connections" to get a job. They already had them before coming here. Then you ask the trivial question as to why they joined a business frat.
also, not everyone puts business frats on a resume.</p>