Undergraduate music studies

<p>Hello! I'm a high school senior who have been accepted to Yale EA, and I am interested in getting a double degree in biochemistry and music. Does anyone know what the audition process is for undergraduates to study at the Yale music school? I heard that a few undergraduates can get in each year. Does anyone know what the audition requirements are for pianists? Thanks!</p>

<p>Unfortunately for people like you and me (and there are others on this board), students cannot know for sure whether or not they even get lessons with YSM faculty until fall auditions, after they've enrolled. Thus, you basically have to get a teacher to agree in advance to take you.</p>

<p>I am wondering, just supposing I were a very advanced musician auditioning as an undergrad for the music school, but none of the teachers know me, what would my chances of getting in be, considering other undergrads already have connections with some of the music teachers?</p>

<p>if ur good, ull get in. =P</p>

<p>Amy - My daughter is a classical soprano who hopes to get into Yale a year from now. She has some nice credentials, top-ranked in state competitions, etc., but has not been involved in performance at the national level. How did you go about contacting the Music faculty at Yale to demonstrate your interest? Do you believe your piano abilities played a role in your acceptance?</p>

<p>gadad, best of luck to your daughter! As fiddlefrog said, the Yale Music School is a professional school, so undergraduates generally cannot enroll as a major. However, a few are admitted each year if they pass the auditions at the start of the new school year, but as a double major student (one being their music performance degree). Undergrad music students should be quite serious about music. I've been competing nationally/internationally for the past two years. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I think my piano abilities had a slight influence on my acceptance, since I included a CD of my conservatory audition repertoire, but I still think academic accomplishments are more important to get into Yale, especially for undergrads. I'm still a little confused about the fall auditions, but I'm going to visit the campus this weekend and will have a lesson with a piano depart. faculty there. I'll post what Prof. Blocker says next week.<br>
Sorry, shrek, I realize my comment was somewhat dumb, but in music, connections are so important unless you're a music prodigy and that's what I was wondering about for Yale.</p>

<p>This is so embarassing, sorry everyone. I actually posted the last message. My friend wanted me to see something using his username on cc (ricemanowl)</p>

<p>It's the FALL auditions that trouble me. At every other school, you know who your teacher would be before you decide whether or not to enroll, almost without exception! I know Yale isn't a conservatory, but it still seems like a silly policy considering the huge number of undergraduate musicians there.
gadad, if you contact anyone, make sure it's an individual faculty member. I tried the music administration first, which was most thoroughly unhelpful. Best of luck, gadad's daughter and amypianist!</p>

<p>Hello! I just came back from a Yale visitation and had a lesson with Mr. Blocker in the music school (piano depart.). It's interesting, seems like NO undergrads can study with the grad music teachers there! I talked to one undergrad pianist and he was pretty unhappy with the two piano teachers they assign for undergrads. It's such a gamble to wait so long to see if any of the grad teachers have an opening in their studio, like Claude Frank or Boris Berman (again piano)! Are any other musicians having similar doubts?</p>

<p>Hi Amypianist, my son hasn't gotten in, deferred EA, but he has been concerned with the same thing. He's also a pianist and he'd like to have a good teacher in college--very important to him. There are other schools where you can get funding and support for an instructor outside of the school so that may end up being a deciding factor for him.</p>

<p>Good luck to your son, andi! I'm just wondering, does he do a lot of national/international competitions or music festivals? Also, does anyone know how many undergrads are currently studying with a Yale grad faculty (particularly for piano?). I've also heard that they are gaining a new piano teacher in the music school, which will be nice!</p>

<p>I heard that they recently lost Melvin Chen.</p>

<p>amypianist, what music awards have you won?</p>

<p>I have a couple of friends who are taking "lessons for credit" courses, and they're studying with faculty from the School of Music. My piano playing isn't proficient enough for this arrangement, so I've never looked into the exact details. </p>

<p>However, to my knowledge, there is no "performance" track to the undergraduate music major, so it's primarily focused on theory, composition, and history. Thus, undergraduate majors don't necessarily have to take lessons with Music School faculty. However, since the posters on this thread are definitely interested in lessons, I've emailed one of my suitemates who is a music major, and he'll hopefully come clear some of this up :).</p>

<p>thesmartazz, that would be TERRIFIC if you can ask your friend about the music major issue. I would really love to study with Claude Frank or Boris Berman, but I have heard their studios are extremely difficult to get into. Do you have any friends who are undergrads studying with them? Or when the audition process might be to take such lessons?</p>

<p>Janerdoo, yeah that's what I heard, but he mainly taught undergrads, right? Robert Blocker told me they were gaining a new faculty member this year! Yay, more chances for us....</p>

<p>I haven't competed too much nationally, unfortunately. 3rd place MTNA Yamaha Comp, won many state competitions (OMEA, Northwest MetroArts comp), finalist at Music Academy of the West concerto comp. I'm going to international Kingsville this year. Other stuff include attending Aspen, Music Academy in Santa Barbara, solo with six symphonies, performance in Russia. </p>

<p>Any chance to get into a grad piano studio you think? What music awards have you won?</p>

<p>Yeah, I talked with a music student recentyl. He said that Elizabeth Parisot is really good, and she teaches a few qualified undergrad pianists.
I used to compete a lot, and now I just do service things with music. NW alternate winner of National Chopin Foundation competition, won some state titles,a few composition awards, SYAMF concerto finalist, ABRSM diploma distinction, etc.
Let's hope for the best! i'm also waiting on other schools though. where else have you applied?</p>

<p>Hi Janerdoo! I'm glad your friend likes Elizabeth Parisot. When I visited Yale, I spoke to another undergrad pianist who is quite good, and he was very disappointed with Mrs. Parisot (his teacher) and the other undergrad faculty. I've been wondering if that is just his opinion. Anyhow, he wasn't accepted into a graduate studio, which is why I'm distressed!<br>
Yes, let's hope for the best! I've applied to 10+ schools actually, have heard positively back from a few, but I am anxious to hear from JHU/Peabody, Harvard, and Juilliard/Columbia. Did you audition at Juilliard or Curtis?<br>
Would you care to chat on AIM? Are we allowed to give out our sn on this discussion board?</p>

<p>amypianist, I don't want to spread false rumors, but I would be careful joining Claude Frank's studio. From what I understand, he is in very ill health. I'd look in to it, if I were you, just in case, though this is on rather fuzzy authority.
where else did you apply?
(also, what about Emmanuel Ax?! lol)</p>

<p>Hi fiddlefrog. Oh, I didn't know about Mr. Frank's health! I spoke with two of his students (one from Yale, another from Curtis) recently, and they were pretty happy with him, it seems (no mention of his health). I guess he would be very busy though. Hmm I saw Mr. Emmanuel Ax when I was auditioning at Juilliard. I suppose he'd be much too busy with performing to teach too much.<br>
I applied to some other backup schools, which did you apply to?<br>
Are you also applying to undergrad music studies at Yale?</p>

<p>If his students didn't mention it, then he's probably fine. My knowledge is through untraceable gossip. Don't worry about it...
I did apply to Yale, for u-g music. I was deferred EA. It is no longer high on my list, though. I've decided that I really need a more intense music school. I've been accepted to Indiana and Vanderbilt, and rejected from the conservatory at Bard. Still to come are NEC/Harvard (individually and jointly), BU, CIM, and Yale's RD decision. Where else did you apply?</p>

<p>considering a double english/music major but i guess i'm quite ignorant about this, can you not pursue a music major within the college? i have keen interest in music composition and music history (!) and look forward to performing lots of music -- i play the cello and hope to sing some too :)</p>

<p>IF i get in that is...</p>