<p>I'm very interested in Yale. I'm in the top 25% and generally have stats that somebody in the top 25 would have. If i'm a pretty good violinist (if i may say so myself, many many ecs in music) and send in a great audition tape, do I have an alright shot at getting into the school? Not that this matters, but im not your typicall asain violinist, infact im one of only two white violinsts in our school's extremly competitive orchesra. Though music is my main ec, it is not my only, i have done my share of club founding/joining(not too many, just stong positions for an extended period of time). I have about a 3.7 gpa, currently (begining of jr. yr.). I have only taken the sat once, my scores wernt so great (1500), i intened on bringing them up to an 1800-2100 ( : ) ). I am very interested in the cronstuction of stinged instruments, and I am currently in the process of working with the National Music Museum in helping to fund a national tour (I know yale has a pretty nice musical instrument collection, maybe the tour could stop through there). Musical instrument construction is one of my largest hobbies, but I do not inteend on becoming a violin maker! I am not doing this for college or anything, it is strictly for the enjoyment of musical instruments and also, to get the younger generations involved. I'm in the whole NHS thing and I am also in the German Honor Society. I know my scores arn't anything to be happy over, but im trying, taking numerous APs when i can (last year took one ap (w.his-3) this year taking 3 aps). I think it would be great to study with the Tokyo String Quartet. I have some time to bring up my scores, as being a new junior. So what do you all think? I know some people who attended the Yale School of Music some years ago who would be willing to write me a rec., not that it really matters, not being family or anything, just friends. Also, do you think i'd have a better chance with the shcool of music applying ed? Thanks!</p>
<p>I've done a lot within my school, and some sponserd events such a solo competitions and ensamble competitions, where I have recived very high ratings (the highest possible). I am also in our city's youth orchestra (1st violin). I was a memebr of all region philharmonic orchestra. Unfortunatly I havnt ented any national events, but I'd really like to. Music is the largest passion of mine, everything I do generally has something to do with music. Everything I buy has something to do with music, it's almost odd, but it's a lifestyle! Does the shool of music have EA/ED? Do you think my gpa is too low, or if I have a good audition, it really wont matter too much? Thanks!</p>
<p>Before this thread goes any farther, you need to know that the Yale School of Music is a graduate school only. Not only does it not admit undergrads, it's very difficult for even advanced undergrad players to get lessons with its faculty. There is no undergraduate music performance major at Yale. I speak from knowledge: one of my daughters, a cellist, investigated this question thoroughly when she was looking at colleges, and another of my daughters is currently a Yale undergrad.</p>
<p>vetmom,
I'm very interested in the BA/MM program with economics (probably) and piano. Do you have any knowledge or opinions beyond what's available on the Yale website that you could give?</p>
<p>I don't know anything about Yale economics; my daughter is a history major.</p>
<p>No Ivies have undergrad schools of music. Harvard has a new joint degree program with the New England Conservatory, and Columbia has had one for years with Juilliard. I believe that in both cases you have to apply and get into each school individually, and I am told that the programs are so gruelling that few people manage to finish.</p>
<p>If your in the top 25% yet your an amazing instrumentalist, I'd consider schools that weigh musical ability over grades and such. I obviously can't get a precise idea of your talent from your post, but maybe look at juliard and schools like that...</p>
<p>I've been looking into Bard, Oberlin and such, does anybody know anyting about them and thir music programs? I really want a double major in Liberal Arts and Music or Msuic Performance. I'm not looking for a strictly music probram (i.e julliard, curtis, i doubt im good enough to go there) I'd like to get a well rounded education because I'm thinking about getting an MBA afterwards, I just dont want to throw away all the time I spent studing music, I really do love it, its the only thing i'm remotly good at. Thats why I was hoping for a really good school to have a music school, that way I might have a good chance at getting into a prestegious school. I'd like to go north/north east, any ideas? Thanks!</p>
<p>Also, I forgot to add, if you were to get into the New England Conservatory, does it increase your chances at getting into Harvard, and with programs like that (Julliard/Columbia)?</p>
<p>Bard and Oberlin are excellent for music, as well as other disciplines. Have you looked at Indiana University at Bloomington? Outstanding for music and business--look into economics though. I've heard good things about Iowa and UCLA too.</p>
<p>Pairings to consider:
Harvard and NEC
Columbia and Julliard
U of Rochester and Curtis
Johns Hopkins and Peabody (I'm doing this myself)</p>
<p>In addition to Bard and Oberlin, take a look at Amherst, Bowdoin, and Rice University (Texans take their music very seriously :) )</p>
<p>Actually, it's U of Rochester & Eastman. Curtis is in Philadelphia. Also look at BU, which has both a music & business school. Rice is an excellent suggestion -- they have a rich & excellent music school. Amherst does not have a music performance program, nor does Bowdoin. Bard's conservatory program is quite new. Also look at Cleveland Institute of Music, which has a relationship with Case Western Reserve. I know less about the West Coast but have heard that USC has a good music program and it's certainly a big university with other stuff as well. </p>
<p>NEC also has a joint program with Tufts that's been around for a number of years, again with very few students because it's so hard. These joint programs typically take five years to get both a B.A. and B.Mus. (the music performance degree). In all cases of joint programs at schools that are independent of each other, the application processes are totally separate and have no bearing on one another. It's entirely possible, say, to get into Tufts but not NEC, or the other way around.</p>
<p>Also please note the correct spelling of Juilliard.</p>
<p>How do you like John Hopkinds and Peabody, pretty hard? Also what would you say are some stats to get in, pretty high standards on both sides (music/grades)? Douthing if you try out for a college like amherst and have a good audition i could get in with a 3.2/3.7 (still have rest of jr and sr left)? I dont have outstanding stats, but I do like to give myself a challenge? What do you think?</p>
<p>JHU and Peabody would be extremely hard. But I'm okay with that :)</p>
<p>My bad about Curtis/Eastman. Is it UPenn/Curtis? I have so many institutions floating around in my head, they bump into each other and exchange components.</p>
<p>IMO Amherst and Bowdoin have fine music programs. They're not conservatory-type official "programs" but the classes and facilities are good (Amherst purposely says they don't have set programs at all; they prepare you for life, not for a plug-and-chug career). The music building at Amherst is awesome, and they have some wonderful modern music people. Maybe Bowdoin's only good for flute, that's what I checked out after all.</p>
<p>If you're going into both economics and music they would be good choices because at other schools they tend to make you choose. Big places have separate departments, or totally separate schools if you're doing a pairing deal, that conflict with each other course- and locationwise. And like veteranmom said, if you're banking on a double-school deal it's less likely to fall into place.</p>
<p>Intersting, but I probably wouldn't do it anyways, both of thoes school are VERY demanding, not that I could get into either one of thoes schools, though I like both of them. Curtis is probably more demanding that Penn. From what I've read, you could stay there for years(4+), you can't leave untill you teacher thinks, or says, you good enough to go. It would be amazing to go there though, but i'm no that good. I think only a little over 100 students are accepted wach year!</p>
<p>Curtis has nothing to do with UPenn. It is a small conservatory (tuition-free for everyone, by the way) that is, I believe, the most selective institution of higher education in the US. It is true that you stay there until you (and your teachers) decide you're ready to be a grown-up musician. My D has a couple of friends from high school there, both taking a 5th year. Only the very most able & advanced players should even bother to audition. The typical Curtis student has been playing at a near-professional level probably since their early teenage years, has won numerous musical competitions, and has been practicing 4 to 6 hours a day for years. </p>
<p>As I said earlier, the correct place for this discussion is in the arts major section, not the Yale forum.</p>