<p>Hi, so I am a PR of canada and will be returning to my province to fulfill the living requirements. The thing is that I have never been to to this province before and I have had a great deal of my education in the US, with the completion of two full undergrad years upon transferring to the U of A.
Could someone please describe me about its sciences? I am really scared about the med school admissions over there because I have read it is TOUGH. My university is very well ranked (top 30) in US and the sciences are rough, but atleast I know the environment. When I move, I will be a complete stranger and will have no idea of the system since it is very tight competition with the cutoff numbers. In the US, we don't have anything like that and I never grew up in that environment so I am extremely nervous. Heck, the med schools don't even have a minimum as long as you are able to compensate in numbers with your MCAT, since there are Osteopathic schools. I don't know if I ever will become a doctor with my moving. I just recently got into a top executive position in an organization, and now I have to leave it for transfer. How will this affect me? I worked so hard to get everything together and now my plans are falling apart.
So could someone just tell me the academic environment and what is the likelihood of getting admitted in the med school? PLEASE?! I am so confused about their admissions deadline as well (maybe because I didn't plan my move until realizing just now).</p>
<p>Bump hundreds of view but no one?: It doesn’t have to be U of A.
How is the environment generally at U of toronto? I’ll definitely be commuting for any uni I visit. Any quick tips?
I’m really just trying to figure out what my options could be</p>
<p>It’ll probably be about the same as in the States – I’m not sure why you think it’ll be much harder. You’ll also want to check out the Pre-Med Topics forum on here, as you’ve got a lot of misinformation (there IS a GPA minimum; MCAT will not compensate for GPA past a certain point, and it has to be quite high to begin with; DO schools are pretty competitive, too). If you’re a PR, your chances are better than those of an international student, but the real boost comes from being a resident of the province of the school you’re applying to for many schools. I can’t help you with the deadlines as they vary from school to school.</p>
<p>I know I sounded a bit frazzled in my first post but what I meant by minimum is that a majority of US based allopathics have recommended minimums on their website. Seeing canadian universities, I have noticed they make it quite public and strict as to what is expected (I guess I like that straightfaced note). But the fact is that their minimums are not like the 3.5s you see for every allopathic in the US. Rather they have near 4.0s as their pattern. For everyone’s ease and familiarity, let’s look at U of toronto. With a 4 year degree holder, they consider their minimum 3.6, yet their gpa averages are mainly in the 3.8-3.9. How is one supposed to compete with that when probably the less represented people make up much of the lower end of the numbers?
Also some follow up questions:
-How much of an advantage is being a domestic student?
-Which province would you consider the most advantageous?
- Would Ontario be the most competitive?</p>
<p>Are you currently a US citizen? If not, many US public medical schools admit few if any out of state students let alone internationals. Private medical schools may admit a few more internationals but not many. If you cannot be admitted to a Canadian medical school, the chances of being admitted to a US MD school are pretty slim. You may have a better chance at a DO school in the US.</p>
<p>well here is my dilemma. I cannot stay indefinitely in the US and I have no prospects otherwise. I genuinely would want to live in Canada since I wouldn’t want to worry about my status but the fact that I’ll have to switch institutes is not settling well in me right now. On the other hand, I could stay, complete study, get job and get a state of residency and try my luck at the place I grew up.
I don’t think osteopathy will cut me any slack either. I would be blessed to get an acceptance at a canadian med school, but I don’t know the competition there nor my chances since US has many more options and safeties than upstate. Plus, I have just now figured that maybe my transfer credits won’t be tallied all the way…which is weird cause my uni is well ranked and everything. The policy for transfer might make me graduate in 5 years rather than the traditional 4…</p>
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<p>The US has many more medical schools and 9 times the population of Canada. No US MD medical school should be considered a safety by anyone, American or Canadian.</p>
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<p>Post there. Now. They’ll set you straight. :p</p>
<p>Ok forget that I even talked about safeties. They really don’t exist, I get it. But let’s face it, a province is much larger than a state and state med schools do give preferences to their own residents, whether international or not. I was speaking in a relative manner, and I did not explicitly state that it was EASY…just easier. Comparing populations will not be as helpful since not everyone aims to go to med school. Usually if a person has a 3.5 gpa, they have a near half and half chance of being admitted to their med school if they chose a list with diverse institutes with their marks aligning yours. In a province system, there are not as many med schools to choose from, and a lot many people will be vying for the same local school. So let me just ask two questions:</p>
<p>How would I fit in at U of T if I decide to go there instead as a Premed?
Which province has more students admitted to med school?</p>
<p>I have read multiple forums where U of T is considered quite difficult and when people discuss the hardship, they compare it to their high school or their community college (far from reality and really going to extremes). I never went to a canadian high school, so I have no idea. But how can one compare U of T with a good uni from the US?</p>