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In my view due to the pandemic there didn’t seem to be much difference between PaCE and regular enrollment this past year. Hopefully others will chime in, will 2021-22 be practically different?
UF had undergrad classes on-line pre-COVID, and maybe lot of 101 level classes will continue to be online as the new norm (?). And, it seems the students who earn an acceptance to UF have high stats/rigor, thus lots of AP classes anyway and should be pretty close to Sophomores by the time they start UF. There are plenty of posts here already about PaCE students who have access to UF facilities, its clubs, its amenities, and nothing on the degree at the end of the day shows PaCE. Many freshman and undergrads live in apartments near campus anyway, so I’ve not yet heard of any feeling like an outcast.
Aside from this, what are reasons why PaCE would be devastating or the deciding factor (assuming the PaCE major is something the student is interested in)? (**this question is not meant to be glib, I’m on this board like everyone else trying to gain information and process opinions on this whole process)
14,561 were admitted out of 49,401 last year with an acceptance rate of 29.4%. It includes both summer and fall admits. As a reference, the acceptance rate was 47.1% in 2014.
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I rather send my son to Phoenix University instead of PaCE for some savings. College experience is far beyond a certificate. Without the interactions in person and participation in communities, there is no difference between any of those universities.
I really don’t have a valid reason, but I wouldn’t feel apart of the university In the same way if I was a pace student verse regular. Also I want to live on campus and I feel i like that’s a big deal and that’s for half of your college years. UF has been a dream school for me but if admitted as a pace student I would most likely not attend.
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@FlaCollegeQuandary In my opinion there are only a few practical drawbacks. The biggest of which is the inability to live on campus. As you state, most undergrads live off campus, but as a Freshman, many find it helpful for meeting people and getting involved. However, it is still possible to do those things living off campus.
I think that biggest barrier to accepting the PACE program is stigma/pride. No data to support this, just my perception. The university has done just about everything possible to enable PACE students to have the same experience as others.
I mostly agree with you. This past year, the only difference was that you couldn’t live in the dorms. If you came in with lots of AP credits you would end up out of PaCE by this fall. I also think it will be different starting in the fall. It seems like many campuses will be back to in person classes in the fall. I assume UF will be also.
Though I understand your points, I don’t agree. If someone wants to be a Gator and ultimately get a degree from UF, the PACE program is a great option.
I don’t think that a Phoenix University diploma carries the same weight as a UF diploma does. We could debate the learning experiences between the two, but ultimately are you paying for that or the degree? As I look back at my undergrad education and my professional experiences, there were some fundamental principles learned in college that were applied in my work, but most of what I needed to know was learned on the job, not in undergraduate classes.
But each has to weigh all of the considerations to make the best decision for themselves.
What you mentioned makes sense if there is no other option. However, most students have more than one college acceptance. That’s where they have to make the final choice. UF Online may not be the best one at all, no matter how great it’s said. I also understand people may put weights on different aspects. Cost plays a role too. Eventually, it’s a personal decision. Anyhow, my kid will attend a real university this fall.
It is surprising to me that this is even a conversation. All we are hearing about college students studying remotely because of Covid-19 is how much they are losing because of the lack of interactions with their professors, advisors and fellow students. Being fine with your child working very hard throughout high school, sacrificing and making good decisions, only to be remote at UF for a year or two is puzzling. I’m not sure what your majored in, but what I learned in my undergraduate classes was crucial for my career. Imagine asking high school kids, who just lost half of their junior year and their entire senior year to Covid-19, to take classes virtually again for two years. I couldn’t do it. It is cruel.
@fladadK4Q and @NJ08809 Everyone has to make the best decision for their individual circumstance. Best of luck to you and your students in this process. I hope they find what they are looking for.
I think out of state perspective will be very different than in state on this. Most kids that get accepted to UF from in state probably have a ton of AP and Dual enrollment credits, free tuition through Bright Futures and many have Florida prepaid. They can be out of Pace in one year.
@Melissa96 Thank you!
That could be the difference. Unfortunately, we are out of state and don’t have much to leverage.
Last year only 42,000 of the 49,401 got their applications in by the priority deadline.
Thank you. I hope your student the best of luck too. It’s such a tough year for everyone. Things will only turn better.
Thank you!
That’s a good point. I am not sure if the 14,561 includes admits for those late applications though. The only official numbers I can find is from 2019, where the total acceptance rate was 37% with 38,693 applications. There is no information about the priority vs. late applications either. Anyway, we just need to wait for another 30 hours. Good luck!