“Also, Ohio State’s selectivity has increased to the point where it can be considered a "near-peer’ of U of M.”
This isn’t a football competition BOP. If selectivity were the one criterion you would use to think that tOSU is a “near-peer” of Michigan, then you’re sadly mistaken. Michigan is fast approaching a sub 20% acceptance rate.
Could be, but why does Michigan require them if you claim that they don’t look at them?
So what your saying is that Ohio is selective as well. UW-madison?
tOSU and UW are selective.
@roycroftmom @jaysaini8 Letters of recommendation are important for very selective schools like Michigan. The recommendations and essays are listed as the second most important criterion (behind course rigor, gpa and standardized test scores) in evaluative admissions factors–and help to separate the wheat from the chafe. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the high stat deferred applicants at Michigan had lukewarm letters of recommendation and/or weaker essays.
The difference is that those letters are read to distinguish among the highly qualified applicants, not to give a bump up to the unqualified statistically, as in this case.
@jaysaini8, what other colleges are you considering?
You say you are OOS for Michigan and Texas.
Do you have residency status in some other state?
Many other state universities have good engineering programs but are more realistic for your GPA (and might be much less expensive) than Michigan or Texas OOS.
Both schools have comparable engineering programs. I’m not sure how it is with Michigan, but with UT, it’s best to have good grades in high school and get into the engineering when you first apply. Engineering is highly selective. If you don’t get in right away, it’s very difficult to get in from the outside without cutthroat super grades. You’re either majoring in sociology or you’re transferring to another school. A lot of UT throwbacks end up at Texas State University 30 minutes away and end up doing very well. Texas State is to UT what Michigan State is to U of Michigan.
That’s what I though.
Could be, but we don’t know admissions. A letter of rec is supposed to counteract with low GPA students. Any explanation for that? There was one really good college website that told me everything. But I can’t find it.
That’s true, I’m assuming they do a ladder system in the admissions process. You could go to community college for a year or 2, try to get a 4.0 then transfer into engineering. But its still tough either way so.
The state where I came from really has no good engineering colleges. Plus, its a bit boring to live there after a while. I just moved to my new location, but I don’t have in-state tuition here. There is a really excellent school here, but it rains a lot there and so the weather is gloomy.
Wow, guys, I was asking for comparisons, but it changed to admission decision works. But its all good 
I’ve made up my mind If I don’t get into Michigan. I will go to community college for a semester or two (Becuase I have met half the requirement at my high school) then try transferring. It’s much cheaper and hey I won’t have to worry about test scores. My Issue is that I might sacrifice quality over price. My mom is saying that take it here at WSU, but it’s a little pricey (considering that I don’t have Instate residency yet). Another Idea I had was to take a one year break, but I would lose track with academia. So I’ll just go to community college and transfer.
What do you guys think:)?
Hey guys
Just did the calculation, the highest I’m going to get is a 3.4 gpa, which stilll doesn’t put me anywhere.
I will probably go to community college for sometime and then try again if I don’t get in.
Cheers
The biggest advantage of taking a year or two at a CC may be that it gives you time to establish residency in your new state. Isn’t a little rain a small price to pay for affordable tuition at an excellent school? If there is an articulation agreement between the two schools, so much the better.
I wouldn’t stress about it. Prestige is highly overrated. I graduated from a small regional University with a STEM degree and I had no trouble finding a decent job out of college. Once your foot is in the door, it’s really all about experience. If you’re paying for school on your own dime, you’re much better off at a state school. Starting a career with 100k in student loans is no bargain.
Nah, I really want to go OOS. I’ll just take a few classes here, and once I’ve meet the requirements I will head on out. I just fell that those schools are really for me
If it floats your boat, then row it
Absolutely, thank man. Have a happy new year
The states have pretty different approaches to these flagships. Texas imposes a small out-of-state class percentages and also the top 7% admission policy. This depresses applications, test scores, and tuition revenue from what it could be potentially. Michigan has taken a very different approach by allowing a higher percentage of out-of-state students and giving the university more latitude on admissions. This has helped Michigan in USNews-type rankings, where the criteria can pose significant issues for schools like Texas. The Texas legislature has also kept some level of control over how Texas uses and invests its Permanent Fund/endowment.
It is interesting that the Texas takes this approach given the otherwise laissez-faire attitude toward business.