<p>I am doing the premed requirements, but medical school is such a big decision and I haven’t sat down and thought seriously about it yet. By the way, as Rage mentioned, a hospital is basically on the UM campus, which should be a big advantage to any premed. </p>
<p>It is definitely easy to make friends. You’ll always find unfriendly, hyper-competitive premeds at a school as good as Michigan. However, you’ll also find laid-back and helpful premeds, and those anywhere in between. You can’t really stereotype “premeds at Michigan”; there are so many with such different personalities. Students are, in general, friendly. It’s obviously easier for outgoing people to make friends, but it’s not impossible otherwise. You probably shouldn’t lock yourself in your room, though…</p>
<p>It is a happy place to be, but it is also very easy to overload yourself and make yourself miserable. I did that on accident once, so I try to avoid it.</p>
<p>Yes, please pancakes, don’t shoot yourself in the food ;)</p>
<p>Tulane vs Michigan would be a worse football game than you might think actually. Michigan head coach Rich Rodriguez had wanted the Tulane head coaching job (and everyone thought he’d get it too) as Tommy Bowden left TU for Clemson in 1998. He wasn’t offered it, so he left WITH Bowden to be OC at Clemson before taking the HC job at West Virginia. He probably has a slight grudge against Tulane.</p>
<p>Not to hijack the thread, but any idea why he wasn’t offered the job?</p>
<p>People at Tulane see into the future.</p>
<p>Is this even close? Tulane is a good university, but it is no Michigan. Even if classes were somehow smaller at Tulane (and at intro level classes, I am sure that’s the case), it would not justify chosing it over Michigan. Going to Tulane over Michigan would be like going to George Washington over Georgetown, or WUSTL over Princeton or Rice over Stanford.</p>
<p>lol Qwerty :)</p>
<p>My guess is Scelfo’s family connections to South Louisiana were the major reason. At least that’s what I remember everyone saying at the time.</p>
<p>It’s hard to say Rich would have been tremendously better.<br>
UT Austin’s Head Coach Mack Brown along with the current OC at UT Austin, Greg Davis, were both at Tulane as head coaches and couldn’t do much. Unless Tulane starts accepting JUCO kids, they’ll never be able to compete without lowering admission standards for athletes. I appreciate that they don’t, but every other ‘academic’ school does. I don’t think it would hurt a class of 1500 kids to have 25-30 with slightly lower stats. </p>
<p>Bringing this back to UM-TU, the two are worlds apart in terms of experience. UM has almost 4 times the number of total students. 30% of Ann Arbor are college kids as well. At Tulane you are definitely not a ‘force to be reckoned with’ when walking around town. New Orleans is in no way dominated by Tulane or Tulane people. The cities are obviously vastly different as well.</p>
<p>Statswise for undergrads, they are virtually identical with the edge for higher stats going slightly to Tulane. Considering that one is a private school and one is a state flagship that’s such a huge statement for Michigan.</p>
<p>Speaking of football though, depending on where a person lives after college, Michigan Alumni events surrounding football games could be a boon for networking post college. Tulane certainly has networking events around the US on a regular basis and has alumni chapters in every major city with softball and football leagues ect., but Michigan doesn’t have to organize things. You can run into a Michigan fan at the airport and strike up a conversation about how the team is going to do, ect. I wouldn’t underestimate that ability for UM alum.</p>
<p>Tulane Alumni Clubs:
Alumni Clubs by state [Tulane</a> University - Alumni Affairs - Alumni Club List](<a href=“http://tulane.edu/alumni/alumni-club-list.cfm]Tulane”>http://tulane.edu/alumni/alumni-club-list.cfm)
Events [Tulane</a> University - Alumni Affairs - index](<a href=“http://tulane.edu/alumni/]Tulane”>http://tulane.edu/alumni/)</p>
<p>Tulane
88% Out of State Students
6,692 undergrads
34,121 applications (9207 accepted)(1560 enrolled)
Middle 50% ACT (31 High 28 Low 29 Average)
Middle 50% SAT (1420 High 1260 Low 1340 Average)</p>
<p>Michigan
32% Out of State Students
25,994 undergrads
29,814 applications (12,567 accepted)(5783 enrolled)
Middle 50% ACT (31 High 27 Low 29 Average)
Middle 50% SAT (1430 High 1220 Low 1325 Average)</p>
<p>Not seeing how they are not ‘even close.’</p>
<p>If you were referring to the ‘experience/environment’ you could argue Michigan is better,ect. or atleast that they are vastly different. I think if you are speaking on perceived ‘quality’ of students or ‘learning environment’ I would argue they are equal, despite the differing experience.</p>
<p>Benetode, Tulane and Michigan are not in the same league. Who cares about SATs. WUSTL has a higher average SAT than Stanford, are they comparable institutions? Michigan’s faculty, facilities, resources, reputation in academe (hence graduate school placement), reputation in the corporate world (hence professional placement) and departmental quality far, far exceed those at Tulane. It is not even close. Tulane is a good university, but it is not in the same league as Michigan just because its students are as capable. The students at the top 100 universities and colleges are roughly equal, but that does not mean that the learning environment at those universities or that the quality of those institutions are equal.</p>
<p>How about stats on the percentage of students that get accepted into med school: and the quality of those students.</p>
<p>oops quality of the med schools</p>
<p>From the Tulane Website: </p>
<p>'Can you tell me about the pre-med program?
Upon graduation, about 10% of Tulane seniors enroll in medical schools throughout the country. Our premedical students also receive preferential consideration when applying to Tulane School of Medicine through participation in the following programs offered to TU undergraduates.</p>
<p>QUICK FACTS: ACCEPTANCE RATES</p>
<p>National: 46%
Tulane: 80% (100% for 3.8+ GPA and 31+ MCAT, 88% for 3.3+ GPA and 30+ MCAT)
Eighty-eight percent of TU graduating seniors (Class of 2005) who used the pre-professional advising office were accepted to medical school. However, 86% of students with a 3.3 GPA and a 30+ MCAT were accepted and 100% of students with a 3.8 GPA and a 31+ MCAT.</p>
<p>Tulane students were accepted at extremely competitive schools in 2007, including Tulane, John Hopkins, Northwestern, Georgetown, Emory, Case Western, and Albert Einstein. Tulane University School of Medicine receives 9000 applications for 155 seats. Each year approximately 35 to 40 Tulane graduates are accepted and 19-25 matriculate to the medical school.'</p>
<p>So 88% of kids who used the pre-med advising at Tulane were accepted to medical schools. Michigan might do better in that regard, I’m not sure, but 88% acceptance is pretty darn good if you ask me. So I wouldn’t worry about Tulane ‘holding back’ your child from Med School admissions.</p>
<p>Alex, I agree with you about your point regarding the top 100 universities for the most part. The problem is how do you measure resources, ect. Keep in mind those resources get spread out over 4 times the number of students. So while Tulane is going to have much less resources, the average student him/herself is actually going to be able to utilize them much more at TU than UM. I don’t see this as much a issue of UM vs TU as much as it is a LAC or small-medium private university such as Tulane vs a state flagship (even a great one like UM.) I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Of course it also comes down to the different departments and learning styles. UM is going to have more majors to choose from as well.</p>
<p>Best of Luck!</p>
<p>Detroit – you’re comparing apples and oranges; that’s why you’re getting such divergent responses. UM is a large public state university. Tulane is a mid-size private school. It all depends on what the student wants and is comfortable with. Here is a real life case study: I have fresh. D at Tulane; small classes and her counselor registers classes for her. D1 is at a large state university and freshman year had to fight for classes, some were large lecture hall classes (no faculty interaction) and one was an online course. But large state school has a great Div. 1 football team and school spirit, etc., which is what she wanted. It all depends.</p>
<p>^^^That large public D1 school is not Michigan.</p>
<p>^^^ Yes, “great Div. 1 football team (not)” was the clue.</p>
<p>“How about stats on the percentage of students that get accepted into med school: and the quality of those students.”</p>
<p>When it comes to Medical School placement, I would estimate that Tulane is as effective as Michigan. Medical schools don’t care as much about where applicants completed their undergraduate studies as long as the institution is reliably good, which Tulane is. </p>
<p>The only exception is when applying to the University of Michigan Medical school, University of Michigan undergrads will have an advantage and when applying to Tulane Medical School, Tulane undergrads will have an advantage.</p>
<p>Right in the gut, harvardgator. Owww</p>
<p>I forgot to mention that the hospital is actually right on campus. It’s like a 4-minute walk from one of the dorms, Markley. Then, pretty close to the UM hospital is the VA (veteran’s) hospital. It’s a short bus ride away if you are lazy, but as far as I’m concerned, I walk there.</p>
<p>“Right in the gut, harvardgator. Owww”</p>
<p>Next thing he’ll say is that Florida is as good as Michigan acdemically.</p>