<p>I've heard a lot about UPenn as far as the Wharton School and their good business program. What I want to know is the following:</p>
<p>1.) What is a top business program like? Is it more academic, or is it based in practical applications?</p>
<p>2.) If I wanted to attend Wharton, would I start as a general undergrad student at UPenn and then apply to Wharton in my sophomore year, or would I start at Wharton?</p>
<p>3.) Is there a table of the AP scores needed to recieve credit at UPenn? I cannot find one on their website.</p>
<p>a top business program molds a well rounded business man/woman. from the soft skills, to the quantative abillities. they emphasize team work, and leadership. academics are usually some what rigorous. yes you would start at wharton. and practical applications are a big part of it. </p>
<p>Getting into any top program takes a lot of work--you are disillusioning yourself if you think it will be easy. Unless you have impeccable numbers, tons of leadership experience in extra-curriculars, outstanding essays, and some sort of wow factor (you started a business when you were 12, ran for mayor, published a novel, had cancer and recovered, etc.) you probably won't have a chance at schools like Wharton.</p>
<p>most of your top business programs are hardly academic-like.
you'll learn mostly about what you'll do on the job such as modeling and regression analysis, etc.</p>
<p>dude, do not listen to people like BSD24.. a firend of mine was a pretty good student in high school ( we'rea bout to graduate HS and head off to college), but he had none of the wow factors that BSD24 says are necessary, and yet he got into wharton. I had none of those wow factors and yet I got into Upenn for econ at CAS.</p>
<p>I didn't say anything about CAS, I said Wharton. </p>
<p>I was merely stating that its very competitive and that it takes a lot of hard work, which includes things like extra curriculars and leadership activities. No, that does not mean that everyone who gets accepted has to have these things, but if you want to give yourself a good chance, you should try to do things that will set you apart from the pack. Saying things like "I had a friend who got in and didn't have all of those things, so don't worry about it" is like saying "bill gates dropped out of college and became a billionaire, so I'm going to drop out too." The best advice this kid can get is that he needs to work hard and do things that will give him the best chances of getting in.</p>
<p>And if you read closely, JyankeesSS2, I said you probably won't have a chance if your numbers aren't strong and you don't have a lot of impressive extra-curriculars, not, you don't have a chance.</p>
<p>I have good numbers. I have a lot of advantages, too. I think, depending on their mood, I have a shot at Wharton. I just really want to know- if I did make it in, would it be right for me? I'm trying to look for information about that here.</p>
<p>I've been reading a lot about how Ivies are overrated. Is this true? What are some good smaller alternatives?</p>
<p>I really don't agree with the statements that the Ivies are overrated. If you want to study business, Wharton is probably the best place on earth (in my opinion obviously). Most of the undergrads there don't have to get MBAs because the education they receive is so comprehensive and applicable in the real world. Also, the connections you make there will prove invaluable in life. One of the reasons that Ivies are so great is because your classmates really add value to your education. Everything from classroom discussions to the conversations you have getting wasted are infinitely different from what you would experience at other, less selective schools. Wharton however, like any good business school, is very competitive, so if you don't think a competitive atmosphere is right for you, don't apply to bschools. </p>
<p>Have you visited the campus? If you haven't you really should. Try and reach out to the kids that are there and see if you can get a feel for the school. Do your research, ask around and see if you know someone (or know someone who knows someone) that went to/goes to Wharton. People on these boards can only tell you so much--getting your info from the source will be much more valuable.</p>
<p>Wharton is not that impossible to get into. Look at my stats, I got deferred Early Decision with a 1940! My SAT 2's were horrible (around 650's for MATH I). What didn't help is that my mid year grades sucked 2 A's, 2 B's (but harder schedule) and I didn't retake the SAT.</p>
<p>Honestly, anyone is capable of getting in if they try hard enough. Check out the University of Pennsylvania forum.</p>
<p>It's a great school, but other business schools are pretty good too, so its okay if u dont get in. I will be going to UNC and I hope and pray that I will get into Kenan-Flagler lol :)</p>
<p>Yeah...Penn generally doesn't reject people early decision, what ns is saying doesn't really say anything about Wharton, other than that he applied there early.</p>
<p>I was waitlisted for Wharton and my STATS are lower. I applied RD. I received 1780/2400, and on my subject tests I received a 410 Spanish, and a 690 Math II. I had awesome reccomendations, great essays, and I am in the top 1% of my class. I don't know what the chances are of getting off theaitlist, but I am happy I haven't been rejected. So I remain optimistic :-)</p>
<p>So really, should I take the SAT? I have taken the ACT, and I scored a 34. I am going to take it again and go for a 35. Do I need the SAT as well?</p>
<p>If you're looking for some guidelines for your application, instead of relying on subjective comments about "how hard it is to get in", the best place to look is at the ED and RD results in the Penn forum. You can probably get those threads by searching for "decisions" or "results" in the search.</p>
<p>What I am saying is that I actually had a chance, if u go on the uPenn thread u will see people with 2200+ get rejected in the early decision round.</p>
<p>I was 260 points below them and I got deferred. I think if I had done well on my SAT's and had solid mid-year report, I would have had a chance of getting in.</p>