University of St. Andrews in Scotland

More undergraduate focused? I am not sure what you mean but I think I disagree - especially as an undergraduate, being stuck in the middle of the countryside is very annoying. I am guessing you meant in terms of studies, but Edinburgh has so much choice regarding undergraduate courses so I thin it is equally good. I think as an undergraduate, being in a vibrant city is probably more fun (don’t ask me, I studied in York for my Bachelors degree, but loooooved it :slight_smile: )

@cinniminni, choice isn’t the only thing. BU, NYU, and a ton of state flagships offer a greater selection of courses that LACs like Williams, Amherst, or Swarthmore (or Dartmouth), yet plenty of Americans choose the latter over the former.

Also, how much choice do you really have at a British uni? You’ll be mostly restricted to the subject you’re reading anyway.

It’s actually less money than a bunch of the out-of-state schools here in America, though.

Do anyone know perhaps when they notify people on admissions?

Rolling admissions- usually a month or two to get a response. Usually faster earlier in the cycle.

Haha the guy just wants to live somewhere else, why not just accept that :stuck_out_tongue: Believe it or not, the US might be great but there are other great places in the world too. Study abroad is normally for half a year or max a year, it just isn’t the same experience as going there on your own and really immersing yourself in the culture. Anways I get you msdonadsbound. I am French and decided to study in the UK when I was 19. I just wanted to see something else. I have never regretted making that decision. And I can erasmus students here - they just dont have the same experience as people who come here for longer (and they tend to stick to each other).

One of my students is interested in applying to St. Andrews as well as a few schools in the US. If he applies in the late fall and is accepted, would he need to tell St. Andrews his decision before US schools release decisions (by April 1)? Or can he sit on the acceptance letter for several months?

He can sit on it till May 1.

Thanks!

Well it all depends on the course I guess but personally I went to study in the UK because of the flexibility you have in choosing classes. I was able to take classes from completely different departments (biology, environment, law), and most of my classes were electives (so I could chose them). Of course if you do economics or law things are different but I think the UK is known to be very multidisciplinary in its curricula. That would never be possible in France, Austria, Germany, Switzerland or most other European countries.

@cinniminni. Heh. Scotttish unis are more flexible than English ones, but compared to North American unis, the curriculum at UK unis (even Scottish ones) is very constrained.

^This. The curriculum is indeed very free compared to many European countries, but not compared to the US.
What course are you taking that allows you to take environmental studies, law, and biology?

@cinniminni your description of your undergrad in the UK is very misleading to a US student. The UK is not ‘very multi-disciplinary’ compared to the US- it is much more rigid. Compared to France, yes there is flexibility. For many subjects there are ‘electives’ but mostly after first or second year, and mostly within the subject field. I’m not sure what your course was, but even in England being able to take courses in your own subject plus bio, environment and law is pretty unusual.