University of Texas at Austin, McCombs School of Business, IBANKING?

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<p>Why are people so negative about McCombs??? I MEAN ALOT of graduates get jobs at the Big 4s and also big ibank firms...</p>

<p>Prospective</a> StudentsPPA/MPA - Ford Career Center - The McCombs School of Business at The University of Texas at Austin
thats just for MPA, </p>

<p>Corporate</a> - Business Honors Program - McCombs School of Business - The University of Texas at Austin
and thats for BHP,</p>

<p>I mean McCombs is ranked number 1 Accounting school (undergrad, grad, phd), and it ranks number 7 in ALL of undergraduates business school in nation.</p>

<p>No. 1 accounting
No. 2 marketing
No. 3 MIS
No. 5 management
No. 6 finance
No. 7 international business
No. 7 quantitative analysis/methods
No. 7 entrepreneurship
No. 9 insurance/risk management
No. 9 production / ops
No. 12 supply chain mgt/logistics </p>

<p>if accounting ranks number 1 while finance ranks number 6, its a target school for sure... and why would it be tier 3+? I mean UPenn, Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, NYU, Chicago, Brown, Darthmouth, Columbia, Duke, Hass, MIT, UCLA, Georgetown, Cornell, Rice, Emory, UVA, Michigan, Notre Dame, WashU, and more... and thats more than 20 schools already (alot of these school doesnt surpass McCombs in schoolwise, and recruting wise) so being ranking 1 and 6 (accounting and finance), its tier 0 or tier 1 school.</p>

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<p>And yes for those "ignorant" people, rank does not mean THAT much. And also I am not saying McCombs is better than Wharton, Stern, and etc. I am just saying people who underrate McCombs have no clue about anything they say... University of Texas at Austin is pretty worthless school without its Business and Engineering, other majors are just trash... maybe thats why people underrate UT Austin.</p>

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<p>McCombs is over-rated because UT's overall undergraduate program is mediocre. Much of the problem is that UT is still in Texas, and the pool of high quality undergraduates is small compared to California and the Northeast. 25% of UT's freshmen have under 1100 SAT scores! (Yet 25% are also 1380 or higher... a huge spread.)</p>

<p>The reason why elite private school graduates are preferred is that they are more broadly educated and also will generally have better critical thinking skills, and especially better expository abilities.</p>

<p>UT may get high respect for the specific training quality in narrow skill sets, but not so much in educating its graduates in how to think about thinking.</p>

<p>Finally, outside of engineering and computer science (in natural sciences), most other programs are mediocre.</p>

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<p>You are exactly supporting my arguement, UTs "25% students with under 1100" are liberal arts/natural science major. UT has the top 10% law under the texas, which if you top 10% of your graduating class you have auto-admit to liberal arts/natural science. And most of the "25% students with over 1380" are mostly McCombs school, and if you want to auto-admit, you need to be in the top 2.7% of you class. Which shows UT has a trash programs outside of business/engineering/and yea computerscience for undergrad (even though engineering/computer science major are a joke for admission compare to McCombs). You can google, but McCombs have the best job placement in the nation, its not number 1 for a reason, also its school rankings.</p>

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<p>And also, its computer science program is pretty over-rated. I mean if it accepts top 10%, it has alot of dumb students.</p>

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And also, its computer science program is pretty over-rated. I mean if it accepts top 10%, it has alot of dumb students.

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<p>The top 10% rule says that you are admitted to UT, not necessarily the major you choose.</p>

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<p>top 10% means you get accepted to ANY liberal arts/natural science major, and computer science is in natural science... research before you talk</p>

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<p>Who would ever say that a student in the top 10% is "dumb". They are obviously brighter than 90% of the class?
Its pathetic that your making that comment!!</p>

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<p>umm any schools are not very competitive, if you live in area with all under-privilege population, very low GPA would get you in the top 10%</p>

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Who would ever say that a student in the top 10% is "dumb".

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<p>lol, i currently go to a public school in texas, and trust me, I personally know a lot of kids in the top 10%, and they have SAT scores of 1090/1600, are engineering majors at UT, A&M etc and struggle with high school physics and math problems....the top 10% law is just plain retarded, and it lets in a lot of under-qualified candidates</p>

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<p>What's with this constant UT-McCombs trollage?</p>

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<p>the top xx % law is just dump. In my highschool, I was only in about top 15-20%. However, I was in top 3%, even top 1% in most of other schools.
The law is just to protect the people with less advantage (poor mostly), and it doesn't mean much in selecting qualified students.</p>

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<p>Anyone can enroll in pre-computer science, but only about 50% of freshmen survive to enter the full major for sophomore year. Several other natural science majors have a significant minority of students failing out, especially chemistry and geosciences.</p>

<p>Also, engineering students have higher freshmen SAT scores than business yet also have a 35% flunk out rate.</p>

<p>Undergrad engineering and computer science are 30%-40% foreign students by senior year, so you can imagine the quality of the students and the competition.</p>

<p>At Mccombs, half the students gets As and the other half Bs; it's not a hard program at all. They even get their own watered-down calculus course! The average GPA is about 3.5 by graduation; that's absurd.</p>

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<p>Lol you have no clue what your talking about. Average GPA is 3.5 (you need atleast an 3.5 to be in BHP at McCombs, the most prestige program at Austin along with MPA) ? I have never heard of that, and last time I checked, it was around 3.1-3.3 ish for the average GPA for graduates. And it does not matter if computer science students drops by 50% (because it isnt 50%), its still a fairly easy program to get in and stay in. And engineer and CS does not have 30-40% foreign students in senior year. And McCombs does not have watered-down calculus, there is no "business" calculus at McCombs, its a general education course taken by engineers/CS/etc. And that SAT score thing, just go do little research and check which major has higher SAT score.. lol wow</p>

<p>please do not pull random facts out of your ass, all your statements are lie, you dont even say its a opinion, its plain out retarded lies.</p>

<p>And also, UT engineering and computer science are NO WAY EVEN CLOSE to being at the level at McCombs.</p>

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<p>ccviabank, do you go to McCombs? If so, your grammar and spelling is reflecting poorly on the education UT and McCombs has provided you....i know several people who got into McCombs, and to be honest, they aren't exactly that smart...the average SAT score of students enrolled at McCombs is 1280, and most accepted students have scores in the 1200s and 1300s, far lower than those of students enrolled in Wharton, Stern, U Chicago, and the other ivies...sure, the kids in BHP might be smart, but my point is, the general strength of the student body at McCombs cant parallel the strength of the student body at the schools i mentioned above, and I attribute this to the retarded top 10% rule</p>

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<p>ok some of my friends are going to McCombs, and one of them already has a sister there at the BHP (Business Honors Program). As far as ibanking, BHP is probably your only hope of getting an offer, but the admissions is really fickle, I know kids who got into BHP from my school that were just barely in top 5% of my class, yet my friend in the top 2% gets rejected. Both were same race, and did many of the same clubs and had similar ECs, but the admitted student was a girl and my friend is a boy. And the story about As and Bs only is also true, but who ever said business was electrical engineering? And the watered down calculus course is a business calculus course/"joke math". McCombs is great, but because UT is just spread so far apart in terms of student level, its undergrad will never be as good as the top 5 publics, which is a shame.</p>

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<p>umm? my grammar? go look at your face. I dont go to McCombs, but I go to UT though. Are you talking about student body or school? McCombs is the most recruited school in the nation, and also like I SAID, I M NOT SAYING ITS BETTER THAN WHARTON, HARVARD, AND ETC, READ THE ****ING THREAD. I know alot of retards that go to NYU Stern. Stern is NO WHERE close to the ivies.... I got into NYU, Uchicago to the economics programs, after visiting those campuses and researching. Its not worth 50,000 per year.</p>

<p>And yes, NYU CAS is not STERN, but I didnt even apply to Stern. So dont say I got rejected from Stern and Im mad at it.</p>

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<p>BHP is not your only hope... 2 of my friends McCombs recently compeleted internship with Goldman Sachs, and probably more... they are finance major with minor in accounting with 3.3 and 3.5 GPAs. And MOST of the big 4s and big ibanking firms have information sessions at McCombs not just for the BHP students. And personally, I wouldnt go into ibanking straight out of undergrad anyways, I really like the integrated MPA at McCombs. MPA can get you a big 4/ibanking in NYC easily.</p>

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<p>ccviabank:</p>

<p>The average GPA of spring BBA graduates at McCombs is 3.49 for 2007. For 2006 it was 3.48. It's slightly lower for fall and summer graduates - but most people graduate in the spring.</p>

<p>Undergraduate</a> Programs - The McCombs School of Business at The University of Texas at Austin</p>

<p>Again, this is ridiculous grade inflation. How can anyone fail (under 2.0) when the average GPA is 3.5???</p>

<p>Second, BBA students take math 408k and 408l, which is calc for business students. Traditional science and engineering calc is 408c and 408d- what engineering, math, and cs majors take. If you went to UT, you'd know this.</p>

<p>The first computer science course (CS307) has a ~25% failure rate. You can only take the course once without special permission.</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://www.cs.utexas.edu/%7Escottm/cs307/syllabusSummer.htm%5DSyllabus%5B/url"&gt;http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~scottm/cs307/syllabusSummer.htm]Syllabus[/url&lt;/a&gt;]
CS 307
"Last semester 132 students enrolled in the course. 101 students got a C or better. 23 students got a D or F. 8 students dropped the course."</p>

<p>BTW, grades below C are failing in science and engineering; only a grade of D is needed in McCombs (AFAIK.)</p>

<p>There are 2 other very hard CS courses that also must be completed and that each have notably high failure rates, plus the first calc course BEFORE you can apply to be admitted in the major, and you ALSO must have above 2.5 GPA in these courses to be guaranteed admission to the cs major.</p>

<p>Finally, if you went to see a senior level engineering or cs class, you'd see that there are tons of foreigners in them.</p>

<p>Do you have any facts with source references?</p>

<p>I do.</p>

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<p>Also did you see that 3.19 and 3.30 for 2007 Grads? You add/divide and tell me which is more accurate, what you said at 3.5? or what I said. And for calculus, you can take either KL or CD, its whatever you want. KL is not easier than CD, if you go to UT you would know. And if you tell me only 50% make it to sophomore year, that class you linked me had 17% fail rate.</p>