I got accepted to BME OOS. I consider myself very lucky 
Iāve accepted the PACE offer. Are we automatically admitted to certain majors after we complete the PACE work? How will claiming AP credits work, if at all? Do we get acceptance letters? Just curious. PACE kids seems to be in a weird void of little information.
@CalBayDad there is nothing I can say to make you guys feel better; however, I do want to provide to you some additional information to put in context what just occurred. Each year, UT seeks to enroll a little over 7,000 freshmen applicants. By state law, the overwhelming majority of those enrollees must be Texas high school graduates. Gaining admission for OOS applicants, is extremely competitive. The following are stats for out of state applicants on UTās website for the class entering for the Fall of 2014.
Out-of State Applicants: 8,362
Admitted Out-of-State Applicants: 2,302 (28% of those who applied)
An admission rate of 28% for out of state applicants is on par with some of the selective private universities like Notre Dame, Rice and Vanderbilt. In short, its extremely competitive to get OOS admission to UT-Austin. However, on the flip side its even harder for us Texans to get OOS admission to Cal-Berkeley. Lucky for you, your son has a plethora of great in-state options (CAL, UCLA, UC-Davisā¦) that actually are all ranked even higher than UT, that is if you believe the US News rankings.
Good luck to your son.
@tritonesubā After completing the PACE program, weāre offered automatic admittance to UGS and a few other less-demanded schools. Those who want to try an internal transfer to the bigger schools (McCombs, Cockrell, etc) can do so, but it will be difficult. The PACE website says that āPrior college credit does not accelerate completion of your PACE requirements.ā Not sure if weāll get acceptance lettersā¦I hope we do haha.
@frostcauseā Ok, thanks! Seems like there are very few PACE studentsā¦ See ya there!
Wait list is a āmaybeā just because you donāt know. You are relying on other kids to not accept their offer. PACE is a better choice than CAP in my opinion. My son was offered CAP last year. The criteria for CAP is harder (class list are all core classes, must take 15 hours from that listā¦plus the extra āfreshman hourā that schools requireā¦so his first semester was 16 hours. (He also already had 28 hours, so his class choices were all the hard ones.) You are at another school (pros is that you meet new friends, con is that you leave those friends)ā¦if you want to do things like a fraternity, you need to do that at your main schoolā¦so that means waiting for second year. If you go the PACE route, you are at UT. No one knows you are a PACE student unless you advertise it. Many UT kids take classes at ACC. You get to ease into UT. Your roommates and friends you meet are at the school you will be staying at. If you want to join some student organizations, you are there and can do that. There is a little downside to CAP. (I still recommend taking the CAP offer if that is your only choice and you want to be at UT.) There is a little bit of āsecond class citizenā you deal with being a CAP student. For example, the FIGās (Freshman Interest Groups)ā¦my son tried to sign up for one, and was told āno, you are a CAP student.ā I would think the CAP school would want to make the student feel welcome because many end up staying at the school. But a lot of things are different for them. It isnāt a big deal though. One more issue is that my son wants on campus housing at UT. We wonāt know if he is a UT student until after his Spring 2015 finals. Then he gets in line for a dorm. I have heard some years that CAP kids ended up getting an apartment because of no dorms. We did have a room for him reserved at a private dorm, but he wants to take his chances for an on campus dorm. So as a mom with a kid that went through this last year and another this yearā¦Go ahead and accept wait listā¦it might work out, but then also choose PACE or CAP. You can always go to another school (A&M, Tech, Baylor, etc) but if you want to go to UT, and were offered one of these other options, take it. They only offer PACE to a handfulā¦A lot more get the CAP offer. Not everyone gets an offer like this. I will post a link to an article that may help explain how the programs came about.
http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/
Read the one that says āThe Performance of Students Attending UT Austin as a result of the Coordinated Admission Program.ā
You might also want to read the first article alsoā¦which is about the 7% automatic admit which did not get the 75% admission rateā¦so next year it will be set at 8%. It is titled āReport to the Governorā¦SB175ā
so sorry to hear this, @skdossā. good luck with your future endeavors <3
good grief, canāt believe someone with a 2060 was waitlistedā¦ are you oss? i am a proud longhorn alum and was auto admit with 1120/1600 a long time ago(in state), These current admit stats are crazy, Best wishes to all of yāallās kids!
My stats:
OOS from WA
ACT - 31 Composite 28 Math 31 English, 34 Science, 32 Reading
3.93 unweighted GPA
Officer of Key club, national qualifier in DECA; state 3 years. National honor society, red cross club, junior volunteer program at hospital
AP Classes: 10
AP Scholar w Honors
Rank: 27/470 top 6%
Major: Biology
donāt worry! u wii get better offers!
Anyone hear anything back from CNS Polymathic Scholars yet?
Hm with the 7% rule it seems like UT has top tier acceptance rates but their student body isnāt necessarily top tier material. What a shameā¦
@jomarchā Thatās, uh, thatās a really mean thing to say.
Throughout the process, I have not commented but read the commentary on this blog. Being an OOS graduate of Univ of Texas @ Austin (grad school) with family in state (also UT alum) I encouraged my D to apply. On her visit to UT, she scheduled quality meetings with Academic Advisors and even an Assoc Dean in her college of choice. All along the way she was encouraged to apply. She has attended a super rigorous school in a major OOS city that does not rank. Her stats were above the average for UT admitees. She had meaningful ECs, overseas teaching experience (as a high school candidate) and amazing essays expressing an earnest interest in academia. On top of that she attended an Ivy this past summer (11th grade summer) and earned a 3.7 average matriculating 8 credits. Yet, she was denied admittance at UT. No sweat because she has already been admitted to far superior (non Ivy) research-based universities that attract and breed real stars. My question is: Is there really a holistic admissions criteria at UT? The top 10% aside, in the end what UT and the Texas legislature has created is a means for lower caliber Texas students to find a way in to UT Austin (i.e. The 90% of enrollees coming from the great state, as well as CAP and PACE candidates). Personally, I wouldnāt want to go through my collegiate experience greeting waves of under performers coming in after the fact to study. With that approach UT will never attain a true national or international rep. Instead, weāre just riding Bevo into mediocrity.
lots of anger on this pageā¦
the college process certainly has its faults , but some of this bashing is just plain mean. stats are not everything and neither are ECs. as people have mentioned throughout this thread, your child certainly wouldnāt be the first student to be denied admission from UT and accepted at schools that are higher-ranked. just accept that they didnāt think she was the right fit or simply didnāt want her on their campus. thereās no need to throw a tantrum and blame innocent students for all of this.
if anything, wouldnāt this be proof that UT truly does have a holistic process? iām OOS, but it seems that if you donāt make the 10% cutoff, you are evaluated on the same playing field as everyone else. for whatever reason, someone (probably multiple people) at the UT admissions office decided to say ānoā regardless of her stats. good luck to you and your daughter in the future, iām sure sheāll be fine, as will the āunderperformingā and ālower caliberā students accepted by UT. adios.
Welcomeme: now that you have expressed your true feelings toward UT I wonder why did your D apply to this mediocre school? Would you have felt the same if she was accepted?
@Welcomemeā Thatās taking it a little too far, donāt you think? As @nat97xoā stated, admissions does have its faults, but no need to berate the process as a whole. UT Admissions selected applicants who they felt were a good match for their school. Also, based on your statement: āNo sweat because she has already been admitted to far superior (non Ivy) research-based universities that attract and breed real stars.ā, I question your maturity level, being that you are a college graduate at UT. Next time, I suggest you think before you berate individuals who deserved to get in.
Parents from Texas would be cheering on a system that preferred our own kids. If UT increased the cost to say UCB rates for OOS and increased the OOS acceptance to more monied students there would be complaints about that too, for sure. I think, mea culpa, we had this school on our kid's list based on our lack of research (and math LOL).
@Welcomeme I have to dispute your assertion that UT does not have a great reputation. Iām certain that whatever school your daughter got admitted to it truly is ranked higher than UT on the US News on main college ranking list. That list however does favor smaller more selective schools because it factors into consideration things like acceptance rate, graduation rate, and average test scores. When UT admits greater than 7,000 students every year, its much harder for it to compete on those grounds. with schools whose admit a fraction of that amount of students. However, when it comes to a pure assessment of the strengths of the academic departments themselves, UT competes and bests many of the top private schools, including the Ivy League schools.
US News ranks UT-Austin undergraduate business school #8 in the nation. The schools immediately below UT are the following: Cornell; Notre Dame; USC; WashU; Emory; and Georgetown. UTās undergraduate business program is ranked higher than all of these schools and even with out-of-state tuition, UTās sticker price is cheaper as well.
US News Ranks UT-Austinās undergraduate engineering program #10 in the nation in a three-way tie with Princeton and Cornell. Some of the schools with lower rankings on that list include Northwestern (13); John Hopkins (15); Duke (18); and Columbia (22). Again, UTās sticker price is less than all of these schools.
If you start looking at graduate programs, then you see the law school at #15; the Business School #15; Engineering #10; Computer Science #9; Chemistry #12; English #17; History #17ā¦(and it goes on)
In other words, UT is attracting great recognition for the quality of its academic offerings. I wish your daughter good luck at whatever school she chooses. I am a UT alum who attended UT for undergrad and law school and my son will be seeking admission there next year. Our family bleeds burnt orange as my wife and her father graduated from UT-Austin as well. However, I estimate that my son has only about a 50% shot of getting in, things are just so much more competitive when were granted admission to the 40 Acres.
Hookem!
Texas schools are primarily for Texas kids. That is the decision our state legislature made. The state has plenty of money and the legislature has a desire to admit students from all over the state, so we have our famous 10% (or in the case of UT 7or 8%) rule. Other states have made other choices. The Texas choice has its flaws to be sure, but that is what we live with now. If Texas werenāt so well off economically or if the legislature voted to change the admissions rules, the situation would be different, perhaps more like U of Michigan or U of Cali.
It is a boon for us in Texas.