UofT VS NYU LSP (econ)

Hi! I applied for economics (CAS) at NYU and I received an offer for LSP instead (I have accepted my offer). I am currently on the waitlist for Wellesley college (doubt I’ll get in though) and I have received an offer from UofT economics (conditions: maintain my IB grade (which is 38)). Now, I am in a huge dilemma as to which school to go to:

LSP NYU
Pros: it’s New York! NYU has a good reputation
Internship possibilities (wall street!)
Small classes

Cons:
NOT 100% SURE IF I CAN TRANSFER TO CAS AFTER THE FIRST TWO YEARS
It’s expensive and imo not worth the money especially for LSP (my family can afford it but it will definitely put a strain on our finances, esp when I have younger siblings)
Small classes. well, I am a rather reserved person and it is arguable as to whether small classes are better than big classes. I would prefer staying hidden in a big lecture than having to actively participate, although if I did end up going to LSP, I would make an effort to discuss and change my “reserved”-ness
I have to pick certain courses like cultural foundations, social foundations, writing, etc that I’m not 100% interested in, restricts my choice. I can only take one econ course in the first semester (and I only recently found out…)
Teachers who will be teaching me LSP econ aren’t as good as those in UofT

UofT
Pros: cheaper!
Toronto is safer than new york
I get to choose courses I’m actually interested in (don’t have to do cultural foundations, social foundations, etc)
I have classmates going there so it is nice knowing that you won’t be completely alone (esp for an international student like me)
Econ professors are way better than those who will teach me econ at LSP

Cons: high drop out rate (is that true?), hard to get A’s, first years metaphorically die
Apparently the math is hard? (I did SL math in IB)
Not 100% sure if I can get a 38 in IB (I think i can but I can’t be sure!)
It’s cold
My parents are not very fond of Toronto for some reason
Internship and job prospects?? I don’t know much about internship in Toronto
High acceptance rate (well not for engineering, and I do know about the dropout rate)

I am still waiting on Wellesley (would definitely go in my current position) but right now I’m just really confused about LSP and I’m not particularly keen on it…

Please help!! :-/

Your decision hinges on whether you really want to study economics (and yes the math will be hard but math sl will be okay) or whether you prioritize small classes.
You can’t have both.

I do want to study economics and I am up for the challenge, but my parents are keen on sending me to NYU for the ‘name’ even though they do think it’s not worth the money…

Err, UToronto’s NAME is better than NYU’s, or no better certainly.
It’s weird, if you’re in the 37-38 IB range (which is very high), that you got LSP, BTW.

Hm I suppose that is somewhat but my parents did their post-graduate degrees in America and they are more keen for me to go to America? They just have a thing against Canada and they still do not understand why I applied to UofT.

About LSP, it could be because my subjects are more easy/soft? I did HL econ (7), Chinese B HL (7), English HL (5), Art SL (7), Math SL (5) and Chem SL (5). ACT was 31 and I didn’t do subject tests. And I did apply to several liberal arts colleges in America so maybe it was something in my application that made them put me in LSP…

although I am a complete stranger but do you think I can handle U of T’s math and econ? (my 5 in SL math was because I kind of slacked… but I have full confidence that I can try hard and make up for it in uni) I do know that I probably won’t be getting As there (that’s fine with me as long as I do get to study econ and not things like cultural foundations, social foundations, etc… I-) ). My dad is an econ professor and he thinks that UofT econ is too mathematical and rigorous for me. But I am up for a challenge.

It sounds like your family wants you to attend NYU and objects to UT, so it sounds like you’re going to NYU. MANY kids are green with envy at this very moment.

A 5 in Math SL may be on the light side - you’ll likely start out in remedial math.

Didn’t you get into any of the LACs you applied to?

I got into one, wait listed by two. However I did not respond to the one I applied to before the certain date so it’s too late now. It’s pretty much down to UT and NYU.

If your parents can afford nyu I think it’s safer, due to the 5 in sl math.
The only other solution is a gap year volunteering/working, and creating a new list of colleges to apply to. If you only got 3 acceptances, and two are not quite favorable, it means your list was flawed.

Hm okay. I actually have acceptances from other universities (quite a few from the UC system) but it’s too late now.

You could try to contact the UC’s. They’re short on cash and may welcome your money. But at this point it seems your most realistic option is NYU.

  1. What is the difference in terms of the college educational experience? The CAS has a a core curriculum. How is this different from the LSP?
  2. Will I have to spend time abroad is is that an optional? If I came through the LSP would I be able to spend my whole time in New York?
  3. What are the conditions that a LSP student has to meet to join CAS? Once admitted can a stuident pick any major within the CAS

Well here is the thing LSP is for students NYU thinks are not qualified just yet to get into CAS so is so strange you had such a high IB score and was only offered LSP. UofT is ranked higher than NYU on pretty much every ranking website there is, and to my knowledge LSP is not really the full NYU experience as the classss are easier and everything is just far worse compared to CAS. I still can’t believe you didn’t get in, as most of the students at my school according to my naviance with a 4.2W and a 3.6UW with around a 29 or better ACT got into CAS or LSP.

BRO IM DECIDING BETWEEN THESE TWO SCHOOLS TOO. My only difference is that I applied to NYU EDII, and have to try to withdraw my application. Im choosing Toronto because it is better for Computer Science (and significantly cheaper).