<p>Yes, straight from the Wharton Advisor's. Only the really dedicated are left by then...</p>
<p>wait, the gpa cutoff is different for froshs and sophs?</p>
<p>LillyJane:
Writing to the admissions officers is a good idea. Be sure that you cc the college president. Also blind copy the New York Times Education Writer as well as the Washington Post and Business Week and US World and News report.</p>
<p>The reporters will get back to you.
You are right that you need to transfer as where you graduate from undergraduate does make a difference, hence this website.</p>
<p>I would strongly suggest that for your next project you concentrate on effective scholarship searches for yourself and others. Offer to help high school seniors while working for yourself - two birds, one stone. Then apply as a juior transfer again with more money. You will lose credits, but you will gain your name degree.
If you are very deermined you can go to UPA's night school. it is a UPA degree. On your resume you would put just UPA not the night school designation. Columbia also has a night school.</p>
<p>Hey!
Your stats sound awesome :). I really don't understand the whole admissions process at all. I had one good friend who applied to Wharton this year ED and she got flat out rejected and I could have sworn she was gonna get in. I didn't expect to get into Penn at all but I ended up here :D. If it helps, I got rejected by my first choice and they don't take transfers. I am very happy at Penn so I guess, it doesn't matter now :D.</p>
<p>I was also rejected from Penn on Friday. I applied there for transfer, and it was the only place I applied for transfer, to boot. So the decision of what to do with myself is becoming harder and harder, since I now have to start over. </p>
<p>I think most of their decisions are arbitrary, and don't really rely on who or what you are. You have excellent credentials--to be honest, so did I--and it seems like nothing helped or worked for either of us.</p>
<p>It's just that...what I worry is the fact that I am at a very crappy school right now. This is a large public school at a very remote location with a academic reputation at the bottom of the barrel. I worry that when I embark on the job hunt not too long from now, I won't get the chance to even prove what I can accomplish before people shut me down because of my alma mater. </p>
<p>I came here because it's cheap and very very close to home, so I won't even have to pay housing/rent.</p>
<p>Aww. I feel bad for you. Do you have a Green Card?</p>
<p>Are you an international student? Also do you need financial aid? I don't know Penn's policy for fiancial aid for transfers, but it is possible that that they are not need blind for transfers and have little money for them. I know that they are not needblind for international students and do not guarantee them 100% of need as they do for US students. All of this could figure into your issues.</p>
<p>I'm very sorry to learn about your situation with Penn. You seem like a hard-working student and a well-qualified candidate for Penn. However, I have to say that the admission process is very unpredictable. Quite a few people who applied to Penn probably have about the same academic achievement and community involvment as you. What you needed in your package is something to help you stand out from the rest of your competitors. Something interesting and eye-catching. Good essays and unique experiences? Struggles with people, life, concepts. I've been in the country for five years, not knowing English before, and had to learn to speak, write, and read English from scratch freshman year in high school, as well. But when applying to colleges, I never mentioned that fact. I instead explored and expressed other parts of my personality and talked about my interesting experiences with people. I got into Brown, UPenn, Rice, and Wash U in St Louis. So all I can say is, dig deeper into yourself than what's obviously amazing. You'd be surprised what you can find.</p>
<p>I still don't get it!! If where you are is so bad go to Cornell!! You might have gotten less aid from Penn, you never know. Out of 10 (10 being best) crappy state school is a 3, Cornell is a 9, and Wharton is a 10. 9 looks pretty good to me...</p>
<p>slipper, perhaps she got into cornell for freshman admissions, and DID Not reapply as a transfer student, hence, does not have the option. Last time, I checked, you cannot just walk back into a place you were accepted to, well that would be nice, but it isn't the case, you have to reapply. However, I do know, once you are accepted, if you apply as a transfer, you have very good odds of getting in, and Northwestern admitted this to me via a post card and I spoke to someone there about it.</p>
<p>Oh you are right, I thought she got in as a transfer. I guess this shows why you can't assume anything and why you need to apply to more than a couple schools, even for transfer. If you look at the transfer board, its pretty random. People got into Yale but not Cornell, Cornell but not Vassar, etc...</p>
<p>tien, you are right, I know I had to write about something different. I did comics on my campus newspaper for two years, so I wrote about that in my essay.</p>
<p>Maybe take a year off and do something cool for a year like get some internship, do research, whatever...then re-apply there AND other top schools!! I can't emphasize this enough, there is not a real difference between Wharton and Brown when it comes to getting top jobs. As noted above by more than one poster, putting all your eggs in one basket is very dangerous.</p>
<p>Out of high school I got into Columbia (college) and Northwestern but was rejected from Brown, Duke, etc. I only added Columbia and NU at the last minute at the urging of a friend, and I am so thankful I did!!</p>
<p>slipper, were you rejected by Dart, or didn't apply??</p>
<p>Lilyjane, I really don't know why Penn didn't accept you, since you have everything a student could wish for. I know you're very confused and hurt right now, but keep your head up. If you're genuinely intellegent and talented, you will run into and take up other great, even greater, opportunities. Remember, America is the land of opportunities. We don't leave treasures, especially one like you, undiscovered for very long. And if you worry about leaving college with a degree less worth than Penn graduates, then don't worry. Your GPA is another important factor in the job-competing process and how well you develope yourself in college. I'm in no position to guarantee you your future prospects, but deep down I believe that there is justice in the world.</p>
<p>Holy ****ttt
They Didnt Accept You@!!!!!????</p>
<p>How In The ****ing World Are They Gonna Accept Me!!!!</p>
<p>um, internations do not qualify for financial aid, or it is limited???, i think that is the answer. BTW, i have a friend who is a genius, 1500+ SAT score, like 5 sat IIs like 750, applied ED to Wharton, was deferred, ultimately rejected. How is that fair, this kid is probably smarter than 50 percent of the kids at Wharton. He is not a nerd, just genuenly bright!! How is that justice!</p>
<p>WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYy
WHAT IS THE SYSTEMMMMMMMM???</p>
<p>Collegekid, I will write my college experience in full, probably for the first time on CC:</p>
<p>Out of high school I was about 12/94 in my class (I was unranked but I know because of cum laude) at a school where about 35-40%went to the top 25schools. Remember this is 1998. We had 3 Harvard, 2 MIT, 2 Princeton, 1 Yale, 1 CalTech, 3 Brown, 1 Columbia (me), 2 Williams, 1 Dartmouth, 1 Penn (Wharton), 0! Cornell, 5 Northwestern, 3 JHU, 2 WUSTL, 1 Amherst, 5! Middlebury, 2 Chicago, 2 Vanderbilt, 8 Michigan (this is a top Chicago school), 13 (I think) Illinois, plus a lot of Miami (OH), Kenyon, Illinois Wesleyan, etc.</p>
<p>(((((((((By the way- Our valedictorian went to Haverford because he assumed he would get into Princeton. He didn't get in there or Amherst and so Haverford was the best school he got into. Its a great place, but he didnt want it. Meanwhile kids less deserving, but who applied to enough places, ended up doing MUCH better!)))))</p>
<p>Honestly, in 1998 WUSTL was a school where kids with 700 math and 550 verbal went. Same with JHU. Penn was a safety. It sounds crazy but its true. Brown was the hardest non-HYPS Ivy followed by Dartmouth. The kids who got into NU, WUSTL, and even Cornell were not even nearly as top notch as the Brown, Williams, HYPS, MIT, Dartmouth, Columbia, kids.</p>
<p>I personally applied to HYPS, Duke, Brown (I was already into Michigan with a 5K scholarship..I still advise this BTW...its rolling, best safety in the world, no doubt). At the last second I added Columbia (college) and Northwestern. Guess what? Waitlist or rejected RD everywhere except NU/ Columbia. </p>
<p>I honestly liked NU more, but chose Columbia for prestige. BUT I HATED it! I got a 3.4 at Columbia, re-took the SAT and got a 1540, and was VERY active in the community. I got into Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, and Duke. </p>
<p>After talking to countless upperclassmen and alumni I realized the difference between Harvard and the others was almost insignificant, so I chose on quality of life. I chose Dartmouth and loved every minute.</p>
<p>No joke. I would say about 90% of my friends at Dartmouth go to a top 10 grad school in their field. All the while we had the time of our lives and I never EVER heard HYPS envy there was at Columbia.</p>
<p>No lie, I have heard "I wish I went to Dartmouth or Princeton " more than a few times from Harvard and Yale alumni.</p>