<li><p>Do you have any information to share regarding UR’s final admissions stats for the class of 2012?</p></li>
<li><p>Number of UR applicants for class of 2011 versus class of 2012? Assuming that the number of applications for the class of 2012 was a “record”, what would you estimate that percent increase is from say 5 and 10 years ago?</p></li>
<li><p>Number of acceptances for class of 2011 versus class of 2012?</p></li>
<li><p>Admissions “Yield” for class of 2011 versus class of 2012?</p></li>
<li><p>Average SATs for class of 2011 versus class of 2012? </p></li>
<li><p>Other distinguishing characteristics of the class of 2012?</p></li>
<li><p>Any progress by UR of receiving approvals to commence construction of the new football stadium? If so, when will construction begin?</p></li>
<li><p>Is the football team expected to be good again this season?<br>
How far from campus does the football team now play its home games?<br>
Does UR provide transportation for the students to attend the UR home football games? If so how much does it $?
Do students have to purchase tickets to the UR football games or are they admitted free?<br>
Do many UR students go to the football games? I understand that few students attend the home basketball games; is that true?</p></li>
<li><p>Any other positive info regarding UR that you can share?</p></li>
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<p>Thanks for the patience you have shown in replying to my many past questions.</p>
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<p>ps… Count down to August 20th…T minus 81 days and counting.</p>
<p>ps to the ps… Go Spiders beat Elon (on August 30th)!!!</p>
<p>Otis, there were roughly 8,000 applications this year, which was up from 6,652 last year, or 20%. Roughly 1,940 were admitted this year, putting the acceptance rate at 24.25% compared to nearly 40% last year. This year's yield is approximately 38.5%. A part of the big increase in the yield/acceptance rate is due an increase in the number of ED admits going from 150 last year to 200 this year. In 2003, UR received 6,079 applicants and in 1998, they received 5,715 applicants.</p>
<p>As for the stadium, the special use permits have been submitted to the city and UR is currently awaiting for that approval. Construction should commence this fall and be ready for the 2010 season. The football team has a new coach this year (former UR player and former defensive/recruiting coordinator at UVA, Mike London). If we still had our former coach, I think we would be making a push for the national title this year, but with a new coach and the players having to learn a new system, I think we'll be very good and could still push for the title but I will have to wait to see the product on the field. We return 19 starters from last year and have two guys coming back who were starters two years ago but were injured last year, so essentially we've lost just one guy from last year's semi-final team. The football stadium is probably three miles from campus as the crow flies. Transportation is not provided by the school. Last year, the student turnout for football was very good. We had a couple of games where half the student body was at the game. Students are admitted for free. In regards to basketball, the team has been pretty poor the last 5 years, but this past season we finished 4th in the A-10 and made a postseason tournament. The team returns 7 of the top 8 scorers and we add some quality freshmen, so we should compete for an NCAA bid this year and I believe that student attendance will be better because of the success. </p>
<p>As for the gunman on campus, the "gun" was a pellet gun that a 19 year old non-student brought. There were no hostages or injuries. It is unclear why the student came to campus but it sounds like he could be mental (said he heard people were fornicating in the library so he needed to spend the night there). By all accounts the school did a nice job of responding and are now revising certain procedures to make the response even better in the case that something ever happens in the future. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time something like this has happened at UR.</p>
<p>I personally am more curious whether UR will follow Wake Forest's lead and stop taking ACT and SAT test scores into consideration for admission. I think it would be a progressive move on UR's part to do so. Any chance of that happening at such an image conscious (yet excellent anyway) school?</p>
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<p>I'm more cynical of WFU's tactic. It seems to be aimed at improving their image, contrary to what your post implies. Average SAT/ACT score will undoubtedly go up at WFU for those that submit them. They have generated a lot of publicity and managed to differentiate themselves from their competitors. All in all a pretty good marketing move as the number of HS grads plateaus in the next few years.</p>
<p>I too am cynical about WFU's motives too, StAndrews, and your suggestion is probably right. From what I've heard, and my brother graduated from Wake, things haven't been going very well in the "Integrity Dept." there in recent years.
That said, though, isn't about time someone, in spite of their motives, addressed the issue that SAT/ACT scores more often than not say more about the test taker's socio-economic background than it does about how well they will do in college?</p>
<p>I don't agree about getting rid of ACT/SAT scores. This puts everyone on level ground. GPA just does not do it. If you come from a highly competitive high school......well you know the story.</p>
<p>We have not yet calculated stats on the incoming first year class because we are still finalizing the class via the wait list. When that process is complete, we'll start calculating. So I would say that while Spiders05 is projecting a yield figure, its a little too soon to do that at present. But he knows way more than me about the football stadium action!</p>
<p>I was pretty surprised by the Wake Forest announcement. I too am somewhat cynical about it but I also have respect for my colleagues there, so it is hard to be too critical. Students with strong scores will continue to send them and WFU's averages will increase. We know that the tests are no good as a single predictive measure of college performance, but when you add them to the difficulty of the student's curriculum and their grades, you get a superior prediction than when you do without them. In a holistic admission decision making environment, test scores can be devalued when you have evidence that the tests are going to underpredict performance for an individual student. But they are still helpful in knowing what students may need additional support. There is on-going discussion about the value of this approach (going test optional) to encouraging diverse applicants at Richmond as we progress towards a new strategic plan. It won't be a decision made in the Admission Office--instead the faculty and trustees will determine the policy (we'll be consulted and have input of course!). But then we execute whatever policies they give us. </p>
<p>Shecallsmedad is right that the tests are strongly influenced by family educational levels and socio-economic factors. This would be an example of holistic review. When you have a student who would be the first in his or her family to go to college, you can expect them to have lower test scores. So long as he or she has excelled within the school environment you can feel quite confident that the student is up to the challenge, overlook their scores and admit them anyway. But if your process is too formulaic for that, then maybe your best bet is to go test-optional and I would say that in the case of George Mason (for example) this is the right approach. They have a huge, extremely diverse applicant pool and a very formulaic approach to decisions. Richmond has a large pool but has thus far been able to continue to read each application one at a time and try hard to treat students as individuals. </p>
<p>As for the gun-man situation, Spiders05 is correct. It appears to be a case of mental illness and while it was quite scary at the time, we were incredibly proud of our emergency management systems. The campus is bordered by two different localities (Henrico County and the City of Richmond) and all three police departments came together to work seamlessly, apprehending the suspect within 24 hours. The alert systems worked and the few hiccups there are being evaluated. Within 1 week of the incident, we had firms on campus bidding on adding voice systems to our outdoor siren system, which up till now had only been enabled for tornado sirens. We found that there were people who weren't in front of computer screens or hadn't enabled the alerts to their cell phones who were out walking around after the campus had locked down, not knowing what was up. One week was all it took to have bidders for that work. So it was better than a drill in terms of how we got to practice our response to a critical incident, and the news was really great in terms of the way the systems worked together. We were proud and relieved to be assured our folks were as good as we thought they'd be in the event of a crisis. If nothing else it is a moment to remember that when you are able to enroll yourself in your campus alert system that you absolutely should do it even if you are worried you'll have to pay for a text message or receive a few annoying calls. Please sign up wherever you are headed in the fall. </p>
<p>As soon as we have a completed profile, I'll let you all know. </p>
<p>All I'm saying is......somehow you have to measure the quality of a student against other students I'm not sure the grade point shows the entire story Without the SAT/ACT.</p>
<p>Looks like the 2012 class will have lower test scores than previous classes. Applicants topped 8,000. Admissions were granted to 2,412 students (30%) for a target of 760. 209 admitted early decision. Median SAT was 1268/1600 with quartile ranges of 1200-1340 (compared to 1220-1350 for last year's class). Went to the waitlist for 40 men and 40 women.</p>
<p>standrews ,thanks for the link , could not find anything on median sat , but did find interesting section c12 :
C12. Average high school GPA of all degree-seeking, first-time, first-year (freshman) students who submitted GPA: 2005= 3.47 , 2006 = 3.48 </p>
<p>nothing listed for Average high school GPA of all degree-seeking, first-time, first-year (freshman) students who submitted GPA 2007 </p>
<p>could not find ant reference to median sat.
"Median SAT was 1268/1600 "</p>
<p>Below is a citation for the admissions statistics of incoming classes at the University of Richmond which the writer of the last post on page 1 of this thread failed to provided.</p>
<p>The University Faculty
The University of Richmond
Minutes of the Meeting of May 12, 2008</p>
<p>2.Provost's Remarks Interim Provost Joe Kent.
b. Admissions. Applications are up 20% and stand at over 8,000. Many schools are experiencing record numbers of applications, possibly because of the Common Application. We have accepted 2,412 students, representing 30% of applications versus 40% last year. The class size goal is 760, but we seek deposits from 790 accepted students since we expect 30-35 students to abandon their deposits. We have enrolled 209 Early Decision students. We have gone to the wait list for 40 men and 40 women. Eight-six minority students and 59 international students have accepted admission. Median math plus verbal SAT scores are 1268 with an interquartile range of 1200 1340. Law School applications are up 2% compared with a 1% decline nationally. As of May 5, 2008, 258 women and 299 men have been admitted with deposits from 18 African Americans and 16 Hispanics.</p>
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<p>T minus 67 days and counting until August 20th.
Go Spiders beat Elon (Aug. 30, 2008)!</p>