<p>you mean in your example students had to go out to find "ibanking work" not work in general, because if it's the latter i question the criticism on the whole.</p>
<p>and since when is USC not a top notch program? it's business program isthe definition of top notch....it's a notch on top!</p>
<p>As much as I hate to say it, I have to side with the Trojans on this one (I kid, I kid.)</p>
<p>To me, the opinion of a Trojan on what goes on at USC is a little more believable than someone whose cousin's friend's nephew's brother went there.</p>
<p>well i'm not biased like some, so it isnt "so bad" to side with me :)</p>
<p>Gtown would probably be good for someone interested in politics but still wants a business degree i imagine.</p>
<p>Berkely is obviously overall very good if you can get in, but as is SC, i know some people that passed up Berkely to go to SC, alot of them were interested in film and film business, some were actually biochemical engineers though.</p>
<p>I picked USC over Gtown business. It depends where you want to live, I wanted SoCal, making USC a no brainer.</p>
<p>I agree that ibanking firms certainly stop at the ivies first and take a much higher percentage of incoming analysts from these schools, but an Ivy isn't being considered in the thread. I just merely wanted to content the statement that top firms don't recruit at USC. As one example, Goldman Sachs (the most prestigious of the bulge bracket), only does recruitment presentations at 12 undergraduate schoos. Frankly, if only 12 nationwise are put on GS' calendar, I would qualify this as ACTIVE recruiting: <a href="http://wwwqa.gs.com/careers/recruiting_process/calendar/americas.html%5B/url%5D">http://wwwqa.gs.com/careers/recruiting_process/calendar/americas.html</a> . </p>
<p>You'll notice that USC is one of them. Also, Deloitte took out a full page ad in today's Daily Trojan congratulating the 61 seniors recently hired by them, and the 32 who will be interning this summer. So while Marshall can't compete with the Ivies (and really, who can?), it's not without its merits.</p>
<p>With that said, Georgetown is also on the Goldman recruiting list so I'll rescind my statement that Gtown shouldn't be under consideration here. And to try and escape any USC troll title, I'll say that if I were in the OP's place, I would go with Cal... even though oddly enough, GS doesn't mention it.</p>
<p>Frankly, I can now see why the OP is having such difficulties choosing. :)</p>
<p>themegastud, </p>
<p>I have been in a discussion or two like this in the past but many people refuse to listen. I have said that many many top firms recruit at both UCLA and USC but people are blind around here. I have given up and refuse to get into arguments with people any more. My new motto is to just let people be ignorant. If they dont want to accept reality it is their loss. Just because they dont believe it does not believe it is not true. </p>
<p>Alexandre, </p>
<p>that was cool as f *k how you admitted you were wrong. I have always respected you but you gained a new level of respect from me. Well, not that I matter anyway!</p>
<p>obviously Georgetown! While McDonough may not be highly ranked(in the top 30 i believe) for undergrad business, it still is highly respected, and the top investment banks recruit here(as someone noted, McDonough is one of the schools that Goldman Sachs comes to). If you want to study international business, you can't beat Georgetown. Other areas are great too. The Georgetown area of DC is amazing, and many agree it's one of the best college towns in the country, with a high concentration of restaurants, clubs, bars, stores, a mall, large movie theater, etc. All right by the Potomac River. The campus is great too, with trees, tons of flowers, small gardens, mix of gothic, american gothic, and modern buildings, a fountain, small ponds, etc. It's a very defined campus, yet you can hop on the shuttle bus to the metro and go downtown. </p>
<p>Also, here are some stats from last year's graduating McDonough School of Business class(from those that responded to the survey):</p>
<p>Average starting salary: $49,530
Median starting salary: $51,000
Maximum starting salary: $100,000
Minimum starting salary: $16,000
Average starting salary in finance: $53,308
highest average starting salary is in accounting and finance dual concentration: $56,000
lowest average starting salary is in International Business and Operations and Information Management dual concentration: $34,000</p>
<p>Most go into banking/investment banking after graduation, then advertising, consulting, other, and marketing for the top 5 career fields.</p>
<p>From those that responded, the top employer of graduates is JP Morgan Chase. The next 4 are Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Merrill Lynch, and KPMG, LLP.</p>
<p>So, come to the Hilltop, you won't regret it!</p>
<p>HOYA SAXA</p>
<p>Interesting. Where are those midwestern schools on GS's list? Especially where is Michigan? And they have 3 schools from LA. That is awfully odd!</p>
<p>Certainly some people need to update their knowlege.</p>
<p>Regarding OP's options, CAL should be the choice. But if you have anything against CAL, USC will be next good one. After that, if you don't have feeling about California, or like east coast, you can't go wrong with Georgetown.</p>
<p>Shyboy, I know what you mean. Ocasioanlly I become fed up and adopt your stance on the issue but I'd feel remiss if someone missed out on the USC or UCLA experience based on outdated information.</p>
<p>Shoot, after reading this over it seems as though I was disrespecting Alexandre in an indirect way. I did not mean for it to sound like that. I was speaking about people's views and opinions on these schools in genreral. I was talking about the general College Confidential ignorance that is not carried over into the real world. Many people on this site have an unrealistic idea of what the world is really like.</p>
<p>My post was not an indirect attack on Alexandre! In fact I think he is among the most level-headed people on this whole site.</p>
<p>Yes, I too must apologize to Alexandre. Often I have to respond to statements made about USC like that and I think I just hit the breaking point when I came across his. Indeed Alexandre's posts are often some of the most informative, well thought out, and above all, helpful on CC.</p>
<p>I did not take it personally at all Shyboy. No need to sound apologetic. </p>
<p>As for Goldman Sachs, I am not surprised with their selection of campuses. I worked at GS for 2 years and I know their campus recruiter process well. They can only go to a dozen or so campuses on specific dates. Wharton and Harvard are always in but the others are chosen according to time restriction and schedule compatibility. That explains why many GS favories, such as Chicago, MIT, Michigan, Cornell, Haverford, Cal, Dartmouth, Brown and Northwestern were not on the list.</p>