URGENT! Please help with Certification of Finances

Hello,

I am an international student and I’ve applied to Occidental. I aim at a full need-based scholarship. However, I am a little confused about the Certification of Finances form. They request that form and the IFSAA since I am applying for financial aid.
My questions are the following:
SInce I obviously don’t have the money to cover the tuition, would leaving the questions

8a. Personal or family savings
8b Parents (sources other than savings)
8c. Sponsors
8d. Your government

blank be considered as an incomplete Certification of Finances?

I’ve filled in everything else but given that I am applying for full financial aid scholarship I don’t see why I should write fill those particular fields nor do I have the funds or bank statements to attach.

My other questions are:

Is 8b Parents (sources other than savings) relating to things such as income and does it also need bank verfication?

Would the sum written in 8b.Parents (sources other than savings) be deducted from my financial aid package if accepted or does it relate to personal expenses?

Thanks in advance!

What makes it obvious that you don’t have the money to cover tuition? That’s why you answer the questions, right?

Blank sure sounds incomplete to me.

Zero is better than blank.

But surely you don’t expect Americans to pay for the full cost for you to attend school here?! What about you, your parents (do you have jobs?), scholarships from your government?

You do know that Occidental only offers scholarships to fewer than 5 international students each year, and that Occidental is need-aware in admissions?

@nikist96

Thanks for the responses!

Well, the combined annual income of my parents is around 9000 dollars because the standard of living in my country is just lower.
So actually I can only pay the transportation and living expenses there and I need full tuition and room and board need-based aid. The total contibution that my family can make is about a mere 400 dollars but I don’t have them in a bank account and there is no time to put them there because today is the deadline.
Unfortunately there are not any government-sponsored scholarship. and yes I am aware that they only give aid fewer than 5 international students but I think it’s worth the try since I am in about the top 15-20% of their score range.

So I should write zeroes instead of leaving it blank?

You should give whatever the accurate numbers are.

Under
8a. Personal or family savings
8c. Sponsors
8d. Your government

it should be zero, but I’m not sure about 8b Parents (sources other than savings).
Do they ask for the contribution towards the tuition fee or just the general support for living expenses?

Thanks in advance!

You say you can pay the living expenses, but then you say you need full room and board. Room and board IS the living expenses. Your post is confusing.

What are your stats? GPA/SAT/ACT?

Did you apply to an affordable college in your own country?

GPA - 3.75
SAT- 1970

When I say living expenses I mean daily living expenses not room and board sorry if it came out confusing.

What are daily living expenses, then, by your understanding?

The median SAT at Occidental is 1950. You have 1970. That is not the top 15-20% of their score range.
http://www.oxy.edu/admission-aid/getting-in/class-profile

About 10% of students are international.

In 2013, 550 students were new freshmen, so approximately 55 were international.

With your average SAT score it seems unlikely that you will garner a full ride scholarship, so you should have a backup plan for a financial and admission safety school.

Yes, I agree.
I have applied to few other colleges and I know that the chances are slim but still you know how it is when you want something bad and I feel that Occidental is a perfect match for me. By the way, thank you for your help, information and time. I really appreciated it.
Actually, yesterday I filled the IFSAA and COF and upload them to the application portal but only the IFSAA was received so I am wondering if there was someting wrong with the COF and whether the blanks are considered as incomplete and no funds available. I am already on it so I might as well finished no matter how slim the chances are can you please tell me how to solve this and why do you think the COF still has an awaiting status.

Thanks in advance!

I really have no idea about the COF problem. -

Best of luck to you in your college endeavors!

Schools use this info in different ways. Ultimately, the Certification of Finances is needed in order for you to get your Student Visa. You need to show verification for all the money that you can get to pay the cost of attendence of going to your college here in the US> You fill out everything you can pay from all sources (family, government, savings, sponsorship, awards, etc) and it has to all be verified, and the college fills in the rest if they choose to give you that amount.

Some schools will give you your financial aid, merit award first, and then you fill out this form to come up with the amount you need to make going to that school possible. If you need $60K to cover you for a year of study at a college, and the college gives you $20K, you have to come up with $40K on that form with certification that the funds are there and available for you in order for US Immigration to issue you a Student visa.

Some schools want this Certification up front as it forces the student and family to come up with a figure that they are willing to pay and proof that they can pay it. The school then can look at this amount of money along with the financial aid application, and use both sets of info to come up with an award. It serves as verification of your financial information and also gives the school an amount that you/your family are committing to put towards the cost of college. . Exactly how each college uses this information is up to the individual school. If your financial need by formula from info from your fin aid statement shows that your expected contribution is $20K, for example, but you can only come up with $10K on the Certification of Finances, you have a gap , and for need aware schools, it might be reason to turn you down since you are certifying that you cannot pay what it costs to come that college. Whether the school will discuss this with you further or just offer you the amount that they calculate as need and let you deal with the form and how to get the extra money is up to the school. Or they may just reject you since you cannot pay, and they cannot come up with what you say you need in on that all important form.

Also if your expected calculation is say $10K, but you show on the Certification of FInances that you can pay $40K, or whatever–more than that $10K, it allows the school to adjust their aid to you to what you need, since you have additional sources that are reflected on the financial aid application.

It is not as easy for schools to verify info for many international students, so by having the student and family commit to what they are willing and able to pay, showing proof that they can pay it, makes for a process where there is more motivation to come up with the money on part of the family and student. However, it does make for a nerve wracking situation for the student.

In your case, it’s simple in that you put down what your family can pay out of various sources which is zero or nothing. I don’t think $400 is going to make a difference one way or the other. If Occidental or any other school wants you, they will have to pay pretty much all of the cost of your going there, which some schools will do, for those students they most want. As far as living expenses go, it doesn’t go by vague terms but by dollar amounts, How much in US dollars can you and your family pay towards your costs is what the school wants to know. With a financil statement showing an income of $9K a year, and if there are no assets or other sponsorship or awards, it’s pretty clear that your family cannot be expected to put more than a few hundred dollars toward your education. Hopefully, some school will come up with enough funds to make this possible for you.

Thanks, I found this information very helpful! Good luck to you, too!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news…but occidental college gives aid only to the very tippy top international applicants. You would need to be in the top 5-10% of admitted international students to get one of those tow to five scholarships…And even if you were, you would not be guaranteed an award.

The school is need aware for international students. If the school does not feel it can meet your need…or doesn’t want to…you will not be accepted. This is from their website:

To be honest, a 1970 SAT and 3.75 GPA would not make you a sure thing for admission…esoecially since you will need financial aid to attend.

I hope you have other options on your application list in case this one doesn’t work out.