<p>Hi all, firstly, I know this topic might not fit into this forum, yet, since the summer programs thread is under Pre-College issue and i am a sophmore in university, those advices are not very helpful to me.
As you can tell from what i mentioned above, I am thinking to apply some summer programs to studying either pilosophy/psychology/political science this summer, I was considering about stanford, however, I came across this site and discovered it seems to be a I-don't-care-about-your-grades-as-long-as-you-can-pay kind of program. I am doing summer course not because of the credits or because i want to get into a certain university, I am doing this simply because I want to LEARN something and those subjects happen to be what I considering to study for master degree.
Can anyone PLEASE tell me some SELECTIVE programs which i can actually gain aomething out of it. Moreover, which course should I be applied in this case, undergraduate or graduate? Thank you!</p>
<p>I would say TASP, but I think the application deadline has past. and it is very selective, so regardless of your stats, i wouldn’t consider it a safe bet. </p>
<p>i’m kinda in the same boat. unfortunately, there isn’t much in the way of stuff out there for folks like us :(</p>
<p>OP is a sophomore in UNIVERSITY…so…probably too old for TASP!</p>
<p>Why does program need to be selective? Any of the regular undergraduate Stanford Summer courses will be challenging. It’s possible the programs designed primarily for high school students may not be…but, whatever courses are offered in the Stanford Bulletin as part of the undergrad program, and are taught by Stanford faculty, should be fine.</p>
<p>Are you international? As a visiting student, you’re more likely to find a broader range of standard undergrad summer courses at public universities. Most US private university have very small summer offerings as part of their regular course offereings. </p>
<p>Dartmouth has a summer term that students between their sophomore and junior year are required to attend. Don’t know if they have any spots available for visiting students, though…</p>
<p>Check the summer school course offerings at schools you are interested in- far too many to list. Many colleges will let students take a class in the summer without the same credentials since they will not be degree students. You can take a true college class at double pace, ie a semester course in 8 weeks that meets twice as often as during the fall/spring semesters. Your credits earned may or may not transfer for your degree at your home institution. Selectivity will be the same as for the college- a more rigorous college will have more rigorous courses.</p>
<p>What about Berkeley?</p>
<p>If you are in the bay area, check out the summer course offerings at Santa Clara University in Santa Clara (right next to San Jose). They have several summer sessions…good prices for summer credits and a LOT of choices. DD took classes there last summer and said they had many students from Stanford and the Ivies who were taking summer courses.</p>
<p>Why is this Urgent!</p>
<p>Hi, thx for the replys</p>
<p>IBfootballer, I am too old for it but thx nways.</p>
<p>2boysima, yes I am an international student. And No, seems that Dartmouth doesnt provide summer course for non Dartmouth student. About the selective thingy, it is because as i came across this site, people talked about non selective programs=expensive BUT useless, all you gain is a fun experience but NOT actual knowledge. I saw from the pre-college thread that even high school students are allowed to have the same courses with the college students, it makes me doubt abit the usefullness of the courses.
As you might know the costsof all this programs are not cheap, I do want to learn, I would go travelling with that amount of money if i want to have fun. Can you recommend other programs to me? Thank you.</p>
<p>wis75, I am interested in any summer school as long as they get the good Philosophy/Psychology/Political science course (that’s why i was considering Stanford as it has a reputation for Psychology and Political science. Can you also recommend some true college classs to me. In fact I have done some researches, Harvard and Yale do not seem to be selective either.</p>
<p>Theocmom, I know berkeley is a very good Uni yet I have not heard anything impressive about its Psych, PS and Philo course. I know it is very famous for engineering though.
Just i don’t want to be like go to MIT for studying History (if it got one in the first place).</p>
<p>LurkNessMonster, it is I am worried many deadline are coming up, plus for selective program, I might get advantage but applying earlier than others. not to mention about organising housing in campus and having a better location/room :)</p>
<p>Wash U in St. Louis offers philosophy and many other classes through University College that are open to the public. It is not “selective” (anyone who qualifies and pays may attend), but these are legitimate college classes, and you will learn there if that’s really what you are after. They are not cheap though, and you will need a place to live.</p>
<p>There is a selective summer program at the U of Colorado that is geared for phil majors. Sophomores rarely can make it in, juniors have a better chance.</p>
<p>Many colleges offer courses during the summer. They are usually “open enrollment” meaning ANYONE can sign up as long as they pay the admission. These programs do not have a “selection” process like they do for regular students applying for matriculation. Is that what you are asking? I seriously doubt that you will find a college summer school program that ONLY accepts “selective” students. Most enroll anyone who is paying the bill. When you take summer course as a student from another college, you have NOT matriculated at that new school for the summer…you are simply taking courses there.</p>
<p>So…just find a school that has the courses you want to take and forget about who else might or might not be in the course. It doesn’t matter as long as the QUALITY of the course is a good one.</p>
<p>Don’t look for a summer “program.” Those programs are usually expensive, and many are geared towards high school students looking for a college-type experience. They are not very “selective.”</p>
<p>If you pay by the credit hour, as would be the case at most of the large public universities, you’re more likely to be taking a real college course. Some colleges may also having housing available, which you would, most likely, also pay for separately. I would suggest you look at some of the large, excellent state universities — where undergraduatge students often take courses in the summer because the classes fill up during the regular academic year. If you are really stuck on “selective”, then look to see if there are summer classes available at the mostly highly ranked state universities – schools like Berkeley, University of Michigan (Ann Arbor), University of Virginia (Charlottesville), University of North Carolina (Chapel Hill), etc. Many of these schools will require that you apply as a visiting student.</p>
<p>Here is a link for the program at UNC - Chapel Hill: [Welcome</a> to Summer School — UNC-Chapel Hill Summer School](<a href=“http://summer.unc.edu/]Welcome”>http://summer.unc.edu/)</p>
<p>Do not get hung up on a school’s selectivity for their summer session. A college course with the same number in summer as fall will be the same course- that Harvard, Yale, UW or U of anywhere course will be the same content as if it were taught in the fall or spring semester. The students and faculty may seem more relaxed because they may have only a part time instead of full time workload. Some gifted HS students are very qualified to take college courses, they may raise the intellectual caliber of a class. You need to select a college and check its summer course offerings, you get to do that busy work, we don’t.</p>
<p>OP- I remember last year Berkeley had a summer school offering for a literature class in CUBA! If my son could have done it, he certainly would have. I am sure that many colleges offer great opportunities through their summer school programs for you to study in interesting places. Scroll through the schedules of various universities and see what they have.</p>
<p>thx again for the replys!</p>
<p>nngmm, I am interested in the program of U of colorade. However, the deadline has passed, I will try to call and talk to them about it.</p>
<p>thumper1, yea, I am awared of it too, yet, 1 of my friend apply for Brown summer program and they at least ask for recommendation letter from her current college. I feel like it is a better way for accepting students than just apply, pay and get in. It is shame that I am not into economics or I will go for it.</p>
<p>2boysima, I was interested in Rutgers University for philosophy program, do you think it is a good choice compare to others? The problem is I don’t know which universities have the best majors, I searched in the internet and there are LOTS and LOTS DIFFERENT ranking for the majors that I want to study. I am very confused and don’t know which university I should go for.</p>
<p>wis75, I understand, as i mentioned above, I just think it would be fair if the university would ask for a letter of recommendation. Moreover, I did alot of research, I found some universities like stanford, rutgers, new york etc according to the majors ranking, yet, I can’t find out which of these is in fact offering a USEFUL, WORTHFUL program, I don’t want to waste the money that I am going to spend on it. I just need some directions, some recommendations to point me to the right school.</p>
<p>bessie, shame that I am not a material for literature, the class you mentioned seems great! yes, have found alot but don’t know which is the right one.</p>
<p>Try Harvard Summer School. If you are interested in Philosophy, the University of Pittsburgh is considered to have one of the top undergraduate programs in the country. I don’t know what they offer during the summer. You might also look into the University of Chicago.</p>
<p>If the midwest is an option, check out the summer programs at the University of Chicago for visiting students. The courses for college students have the same requirements as any other Chicago course and there are a wide variety from which to choose <a href=“https://summer.uchicago.edu/depts.cfm[/url]”>https://summer.uchicago.edu/depts.cfm</a> .</p>
<p>The professors tend to be excellent for the summer. For example, teaching Plato’s Republic this summer is Herman Sinaiko.</p>
<p>[Profile:</a> Herman Sinaiko](<a href=“http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/960926/profilesinaiko.shtml]Profile:”>Profile: Herman Sinaiko)
[Opine:</a> Herman Sinaiko](<a href=“http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/070118/opine.shtml]Opine:”>Opine: Herman Sinaiko)</p>
<p>If it is selective, they might not select you, dis2shallpass.</p>
<p>Hi all!</p>
<p>Consolation, thanks for letting me know about UPitt, i was so happy about it! Yet, then I came across other threads saying that many universities will not ‘use’ the same professors for summer session, and I looked up UPitts, it happened to be 1 of them. NON of the teachers for summer session are from the Philosophy department. Do you think it matters?</p>
<p>idad, again thanks for letting me know about Uchicaga, it is indeed a good choice, but i don’t understand why there are so many nonrefunable deposite, it is like $1000 in total! I heard it is famous for Economics, do you think it is also good for Psychology/Philosophy/Political Science?</p>
<p>Sorghum, I understand about it, it is just that I would rather take my chance to apply some competitive places and might end up get in/not then getting into a place which anyone can get into as long as they can pay.</p>
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<p>Well, it depends. I took Ango-Saxon at Harvard Summer School while I was in college, and our professor was from either Berkeley or Stanford–I can’t recall which. So obviously he was just fine. Since Pitt is known for philosophy it is disappointing, but you should be able to google whomever is teaching and get some idea of their background. </p>
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<p>The U of C is certainly excellent in both Philosophy and Political Science. I know nothing about their Psych department, but I would assume it is at the very least competent, and quite likely very strong.</p>