US colleges and Japanese Google

<p>on this i hav to agree with RML
prestige is based on reputation, so in order for a college to be prestigious, it has to be well-known right…</p>

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<p>It’s clear that you don’t know much about marketing. </p>

<p>You spend money to market your product to your target consumer. The target consumer (i.e. ultra rich) know what Bugatti is. They don’t need to waste time, money and energy marketing Bugatti to the folks who attend WWF and trucker rally events.</p>

<p>Have you ever picked up a magazine dedicated to private jet or yacht owners – or the private banking / hedge fund audience? The brands that advertise in those places aren’t your average brands. McDonald’s is not buying ad space there.</p>

<p>So, don’t worry about Bugatti. The fact that you don’t know the name Bugatti is no mistake. You are not their target consumer and you are never going to own one.</p>

<p>^^^^Another snob on CC. RML never said he wasn’t aware of Bugatti. You just assumed that because he doesn’t agree with your viewpoints, that he is somehow ignorant. I certainly have heard of Bugatti and could never afford to purchase one. So what does that prove, other than I’m not ultra rich? </p>

<p>Here is Webster’s definition of prestige:</p>

<p>Main Entry: prestige pre-!stEzh
Pronunciation: \ pre-ˈstēzh, -ˈstēj \
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from Middle French, conjuror’s trick, illusion, from Latin praestigiae, plural, conjuror’s tricks, from praestringere to graze, blunt, constrict, from prae- + stringere to bind tight - More at - strain
Date: 1829
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<li><p>standing or estimation in the eyes of people : weight or credit in general opinion</p></li>
<li><p>commanding position in people’s minds- Synonym - see influence </p></li>
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<p>See the words, “general opinion?”</p>

<p>^ right, because prestige is just a perception. </p>

<p>Berkeley, for example, is prestigious to most scholars; well-schooled individuals; researchers; university deans, provosts and presidents. It is respected by most government officials all over the world. Many governments around the world tap Berkeley for their government projects and guides. For example, Berkeley scholars were once commissioned by the Thai government for projects related to Thailand’s economic development. South Africa’s government tapped Berkeley for their electricity development. India is one of those large countries that tap Berkeley for national projects.
But for some people, Berkeley is an ordinary school. For many people, Berkeley does not even exist.
For hawkette, the<em>prestige and xiggi, Berkeley is just another large State U.
For xiggi, CMC is prestigious. For me, it is not that much.
For hawkette, Emory is prestigious. For me, it’s not that much.
For the</em>prestige, well, i have yet to hear it from him. lol</p>

<p>This is Google’s definition of “prestige”</p>

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<p>^^^ No where in that definition does it state that the awareness has to be broad based. Only that the quality of awareness was high. Quality is =/= Quantity. Familiarity =/= Prestige.</p>

<p>let’s break down that previously posted definition:</p>

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<p>the definition of the word does not rely on a broad based level of awareness. the crux of the definition is that the prevailing opinion has two qualities: 1) that there is a general consensus and 2) that the consensus is positive. </p>

<p>after all, when weighing the level of prestige of any product, brand, person, thing, each and every thing will have a differing level of awareness does it not? So the definition must rely on the QUALITY not QUANTITY of awareness.</p>

<p>Its a nuanced difference, a difference nonetheless which I might expect would go over your head.</p>

<p>the_prestige, please don’t dive -with your head first- into a shallow pool.</p>

<p>lol on your argument.</p>

<p>on topics re mktg:
do you always assume affluent people would know each and every expensive stuff sold on earth?
i will not let you run one of my companies. lol</p>

<p>well yes a famous school may not be prestigious
but a prestigious school is definitely famous</p>

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<p>Do you think that the general public has heard of Exeter or Andover? Does the average person think of a university when hearing the name Eton College? </p>

<p>Those are probably three of THE MOST prestigious high schools in the world. I doubt your average American has heard of all three.</p>

<p>That’s a great example, the-prestige.</p>

<p>yay someone actually called me an average american!</p>

<p>lol anyways, yes those schools r probably very prestigious for the people that know them, but for me? not really. Prestige isn’t education quality, if a school is not prestigious for me doesn’t mean it’s not a great school</p>

<p>another example, for me, Hong Kong U is an extremely prestigious school, but when I mentioned it in front of my friends here, they would only respond with a “cool”.
For the asian, it is prestigious, for the average american, nope, but it’s still one of the best colleges in Asia. Simple as that.</p>

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<p>With respect, you are confusing familiarity with prestige. A common mistake. I would submit that Hong Kong U is neither that prestigious nor that familiar with the general public (and certainly not in the US).</p>

<p>lol well no
I think i’d put it this way</p>

<p>prestige = local familiarity due to good quality? <- bad grammar maybe lol </p>

<p>just my thought :)</p>

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<p>I can easily see a situation where a local university has both local familiarity and local prestige, but I am arguing that one does not automatically mean the other.</p>

<p>yea but usually a local u gained its local “prestige” because of its location, not because of its quality right?</p>

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<p>I would think that all prestigious universities begin that way. After all, you have to start from somewhere. Harvard once began as a “local college” Now, Harvard having been established some 140 years before America was even established as a country certainly gave it a pretty large head start. One could argue that initially its location was significant to the extent that it was the “only game in town” (i.e. people had to travel to Cambridge if they wanted to get a higher education). But clearly, what they did they did at a very high level from start.</p>

<p>Obviously, not all local colleges end up becoming Harvard – but that is precisely the point. In other words, most local colleges are well known in their respective communities (read: familiarity), but that doesn’t automatically mean (i.e. due to this high level of familiarity) that they are equally respected as quality programs (read: prestige).</p>

<p>i think we should trust the<em>prestige on this… his name IS the</em>prestige. that’s a pretty convincing argument to me :)</p>

<p>^ lol… how ironic for someone who doesn’t know what the real meaning of his name really is. hahaha… </p>

<p>the U of HK, U of Tokyo, Peking U, National U of Singapore, IIT of India, IIM of India, to name a few are all very, very prestigious institutions in Asia for those who care. </p>

<p>HYPSM are extremely very prestigious schools for those WHO CARE. For those who don’t, they couldn’t care less. That’s just it. </p>

<p>Would that make HYPSM less prestigious schools? It depends upon the person viewing it. If he’ll constantly hear from people whom he truly trust that HYSPM are just overrated, then there is a chance that one day he’ll stop perceiving HYPSM as prestigious schools. Like I said, prestige is subjective and matters only to those who care.</p>

<p>the prestige, is Rihga Royal Kokura Kyushu prestigious?</p>

<p>RML why not get back to discussing the actual thread instead of asking idiotic questions. I know that is very difficult for you.</p>

<p>lol… I’m trying to make a point. I do not wish to embarrass you any further.</p>