<p>Well you don't have to eat your hat, but these are the real rankings. I got them yesterday at Barnes and Noble, and scanned and posted the pictures in this album:</p>
<p>I promise the rankings are all for real. What would I gain by making all this up? If you still don't believe me, then just wait a couple of days for the real rankings to come out. ;)</p>
<p>There was a whole thread in the parents forum a few hours ago with lots of details. Now its gone. Mods at work?</p>
<p>Maybe Diocletian would be happier if he was the only person in the entire world who had ever heard of UChicago. Like it was something he made up in his head or something.</p>
<p>At least he would get a good imaginary education.</p>
<p>calidan has me convinced. Chicago finally gets the respect it deserves.</p>
<p>If it's fake, there's the gain. The effort spent in photomanipulation would have already been payed back in full as far as comic effect. We'll see in two days I guess.</p>
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<p>Well, I asked "How is that pretentious?" and your response was basically, "If they withdrew, I think it would be pretentious."</p>
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<p>I don't have any data (and neither do you, I wager), but if it comes out that a significant portion of the students at Chicago heard of the school through USNWR then I might be willing to change my mind. As it stands now, I think the whole ranking process at USNWR is basically bankrupt and Chicago's participation only helps to legitimize the commodification of the college experience, particularly admissions, that the USNWR rankings seem to represent. In my mind, this is nearly the antithesis of Chicago's goal as an educational institution. What's more, I think these rankings betray the idea of higher education as such, and would be entirely happy if they went away altogether.</p>
<p>For anecdotal evidence, neither I nor anyone I know heard of Chicago through the USNWR rankings, and I came from the middle-of-nowhere Michigan. <em>shrug</em></p>
<p>Hey, quit the petty arguing.</p>
<p>Anyone who has the slightest knowledge of ranking and scoring methodologies know the USNWR rankings are bogus. That said,</p>
<p>GO U OF CHICAGO!!!!</p>
<p>Yes, US News cannot measure that it is #1 in our Hearts</p>
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<p>Er, right, that's sort of my point. Why participate, then? You can get lists of "good" schools from plenty of places without having to rank them a la USNWR.</p>
<p>If they're so bad, why not wish EVERY school would just stop supplying U.S. News with information? That makes a lot more sense than wishing only UChicago would stop, considering that they're both almost equally as unrealistic.</p>
<p>Reed College perennially ranks fairly low in the USNWR rankings, but seems no worse off for it. It rivals Chicago in academic intensity and provides an excellent undergraduate education. Reed remains one of the most respected LAC's in the country and is one of the most successful schools in placing its graduates into top graduate programs. It has that self-selecting thing going for it as well.</p>
<p>Though I am not necessarily advocating Chicago withdraw, it would not be the end of the world if it did.</p>
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<p>Because I hold Chicago to a higher standard than "every school," for one. But, if you read my last post, I did say:</p>
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<p>Hmm, I don't like that I used "entirely" and "altogether" in the same sentence. Too many adverbs!</p>
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<p>Isn't that what kk-Northwestern-fan was saying?</p>
<p>Guys, it really is about recognition, and the 9th spot is awsome. The more popular the school is the more ppl apply and the stronger student body the school has. And it is the job of the deans to select the BEST CHICAGO KIDS. CIA also advertises but then you have to go through like 5 stages and barely anyone makes it especially inside the directorate. It does not advertise for popularity. It advertises for a broader applicant pool. You always want to have more choices. And F@#k that **** that you said that we stopped sending info to U.S news. you wanna be a complete social outcast?</p>
<p>I am thinking that the higher ranking does mean more applicants, but if they are the insincere kind Chicago doesn't want, it's not going to change the student body for the worst, because they either won't be admitted or won't matriculate. All it means is a little more exposure, a few more apps, and hence a little more work for the adcoms. Overall it is a good thing, IMO.</p>
<p>What do you mean insencere? I think there is no such thing. I decided to go to Uchi like to a boot camp. Does it make me insencere?</p>
<p>By insincere I meant those, of all academic strengths, who don't really want to attend Chicago, but add it to their list because of it's high ranking.</p>
<p>Most will take it off when they realize that they have to write new essays. Why wasn't UChicago's application rate high during years of past when it was ranked high. I wouldn't worry too much and I don't think much is gonna change.</p>
<p>This is the top 10 list, reported in the NY times, which also provides more info on Chicago's jump to 9th place; see:
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-College-Rankings.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-College-Rankings.html</a></p>
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<li><p>Princeton University</p></li>
<li><p>Harvard University</p></li>
<li><p>Yale University</p></li>
<li><p>California Institute of Technology</p></li>
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<p>Massachusetts Institute of Technology</p>
<p>Stanford University (tie)</p>
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<li><p>University of Pennsylvania</p></li>
<li><p>Duke University</p></li>
<li><p>Columbia University</p></li>
</ol>
<p>Dartmouth University</p>
<p>University of Chicago (tie)</p>