<p>1 Harvard
2 Princeton
3 Yale
4 Stanford
4 MIT
6 Duke
6 Penn
8 Caltech
8 Columbia
10 UChicago
11 Dartmouth
12 Brown
12 Cornell
14 JHU
14 Northwestern
16 WashU
17 Vanderbilt
18 Emory
19 Berkeley
20 Rice</p>
<p>Based on reviewing the latest CDS of most of these universities, I’m guessing at the following ranks. However, the data in the CDS accounts for less than half of the ranking methodology of USNWR. In particular, any change in a school’s Peer Assessment rating has the potential to dramatically alter a school’s rating. </p>
<p>The following is my current guess:</p>
<p>1 Harvard
2 Princeton
3 Yale
4 MIT
5 Caltech
5 Stanford
5 U Penn
8 Columbia
8 Duke
10 Dartmouth
10 U Chicago
12 Northwestern
13 Wash U
14 Brown
14 Cornell
14 Johns Hopkins
17 Vanderbilt
18 Rice
19 Emory
19 Notre Dame
21 Carnegie Mellon
21 U VIRGINIA
21 UC BERKELEY
24 Georgetown
24 USC
26 UCLA
27 Tufts
28 Wake Forest
29 U MICHIGAN
29 U N CAROLINA</p>
<p>CDS? What is CDS?</p>
<p>Common data set</p>
<p>Bored, So I decided I’ll do the top 50+ to include other good schools (Like OSU and Maryland, etc)</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>UPenn</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Wash U</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>UC Berkeley</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Wake Forest</li>
<li>UNC</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>Brandeis</li>
<li>Boston College</li>
<li>Georgia Tech</li>
<li>William and Mary</li>
<li>Lehigh</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>Rochester</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>UIUC</li>
<li>RPI</li>
<li>Case Western</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>UC Davis</li>
<li>UCSB</li>
<li>UC Irvine</li>
<li>UT Austin</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>Tulane</li>
<li>Miami</li>
<li>Yeshiva</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>OSU</li>
<li>Pitt</li>
<li>GWU</li>
<li>Syracuse</li>
<li>BU</li>
<li>Pepperdine</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>Georgia</li>
</ol>
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<p>Does the PA vary a lot from year to year? What affects it?</p>
<p>I predict Georgia Tech will definitely move up</p>
<p>PA ratings do not fluctuate much. At the most, you will see a 0.1 move up or down but will generally maintain the same average. For example, Cornell almost always has a PA of4.5 or 4.6. Caltech almost always has a PA of 4.6 or 4.7. Cal is always at 4.7 or 4.8. Michigan has been as high as 4.6 and as low as 4.4 but most years has a PA of 4.5 etc…</p>
<p>However, since the PA counts for 25% of the overall ranking, even a 0.1 change can make a difference.</p>
<p>hawkette,</p>
<p>What will it take to make Berkeley top 20? Which data in the CDS is holding it back? Endowment? Student Faculty Ratio?</p>
<p>How do you think Top 10 LAC rankings will change? We’ve been focusing on universities on this thread, how about LACs now?</p>
<p>I hope Rice moves up- it’d be nice to crack the top 15 before its 100th year.</p>
<p>I highly doubt Rice would move up that high.</p>
<p>Two spots? Crazier things have happened. And we’ve got two years (1912-2012) or three, depending on how you look at it.</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>UChicago</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Washington U</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Cal-Berkeley</li>
</ol>
<p>What does everybody think of Purdue’s ranking? If I recall they were #54 last year?</p>
<p>My guess:</p>
<ol>
<li>Williams</li>
<li>Amherst/Swarthmore</li>
<li>Middlebury</li>
<li>Bowdoin</li>
<li>Pomona/Wellesley</li>
<li>Carleton</li>
<li>Haverford</li>
<li>Davidson</li>
<li>Claremont McKenna</li>
<li>Vassar</li>
</ol>
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<p>I’m afraid we can’t all be as “profound” and “genuine” as you are.</p>
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<p>Alexandre, could the changes not be ascribed to the RANKED order of the PA category where a change of 0.1 up and down might rock the apple cart? After all, do we know how Mr. Morse assigns the scores when he massages the results in his annual “level the playing field” exercise?</p>
<p>Oh wait, he does NOT … according to our friend rjkofnovi who still *clings *to the notion “that the ranking system is slanted towards privates.” Of course, all a candid and objective observer needs to do is to take Mr. Morse at his own words and description of the main raison d’</p>
<p>Xiggi, the USNWR formula is indeed slanted in favor of private universities. The PA is the only part of the formula that favors research-heavy univesities, where publics can fairly compete with the private elite. The remaining 75% of the formula, the USNWR is designed to hurt publics, more so because of the way private universities can manipulate data, such as locking classes to a certain size, leaving graduate students out of their student to faculty ratio calculations, superscoring SAT averages etc… Then you have the alumni donation rate, which also hurts larger universities with hard-to-reach alumni and no real history of soliciting donations from them.</p>
<p>Alexandre, that is one (selective) way to look at it! </p>
<p>Another way would be to interpret that the PA with its uttely subjective 25% impact is simply distorting the 75% that is based on more objective data. </p>
<p>By the way, are so sure that a school such as Cal is only “helped” by the 25% PA and hurt by the remaining 75%. You mentioned un-superscored SAT but what about the class rank that dwarfs the admission rate in the selectivity index? Does that de facto high class rank that is so state-centric hurt or help? </p>
<p>Oh well, we might argue for another ten years and not much will change. Your favorite schools will remain in the same narrow ranking range, and for all the reasons that have been debated ad nauseam. Unless the PA gets a boost and a vote of confidence, or a better and slicker graduate school distortion is unveiled by Morse and his acolytes. After all, isn’t that complete garbage of world universities’ rankings not a ripe fruit to grab?</p>