US News 2011 rankings allegedly released. Legit?

[blaquedude]

<p>It would be so funny if this poster has us fooled. </p>

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@bahrain321

Just picked up a copy at Barnes & Noble 1) Harvard Universtiy 2) Princeton University 3) Yale University 4) Columbia 5) Stanford 5) UPenn 7) MIT 7) Caltech 9) Duke 10) Northwestern 11) Dartmouth 12) UChicago 13) Brown 13) WashU St Louis 13) Johns Hopkins 16) Cornell 17) Notre Dame 18) Emory 19) Rice 19) Vanderbilt 21) Berkeley 22) Georgetown 23) Carnegie Mellon 24) Virginia 25) UCLA 25) USC 25) Wake Forest</p>

<p>You dont have to believe it

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<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/913331-us-news-rankings-2011-a-73.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/913331-us-news-rankings-2011-a-73.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

[GoldOwl]

<p>To be honest, I doubt it’s legit although who knows. I just know that there have been a lot of reported “leaks” and all of them are different.</p>

[noobcake]

<p>The poster claimed to have gotten this from B&M Barnes and Nobles. Anyone know if the magazine even comes out tomorrow? (Considering USNWR is just releasing the online edition at 11 PM eastern time tonight)</p>

<p>Anyways, very well could be fake</p>

[phuriku]

<p>This one is definitely legit, due to confirmation from independent sources including a media outlet. It’s a crazy ranking, to be sure, and one that won’t sit well with serious readers.</p>

[thenatural]

<p>11 PM? not 12?</p>

[CornellPerson]

<p>Unfortunatly, the rankings will still have a massive impact on readers. Anyone with any college sense knows that Stanford/MIT/CIT should not be ranked that low. And I’m sure even students of Columbia/Penn (still) probably feel like they were given an unworthy boost. Both are great schools, but Stanford still stands significant above both.</p>

[45_Percenter]

<p>^ thenatural, US News usually has the new rankings up shortly before 12 AM, and as early as 11 PM.</p>

[kwu]

<p>Good for Columbia. Too bad all of their students, administrators, and staff are *******s.</p>

<p>I can’t wait for Columbia Law School to bypass Stanford Law School, which is only holding on to it’s #3 spot due to name recognition. I just want to see Stanford and the West Coast get owned.</p>

<p>Confusing that NU thrashed UChicago, that the latter didn’t manage to outpace Dartmouth.</p>

<p>Notre Dame should be above Cornell, and Georgetown and CMU above Berkeley.</p>

<p>Otherwise, perfectly legit rankings.</p>

[45_Percenter]

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@CornellPerson

And I’m sure even students of Columbia/Penn (still) probably feel like they were given an unworthy boost. Both are great schools, but Stanford still stands significant above both.

Actually, Penn has been tied with or higher than Stanford several times in the past:</p>

<p>[U.S&lt;/a&gt;. News Rankings Through the Years](<a href=“http://web.archive.org/web/20070908142457/http://chronicle.com/stats/usnews/]U.S”>http://web.archive.org/web/20070908142457/http://chronicle.com/stats/usnews/)</p>

<p>Not that it necessarily means anything ('cause it doesn’t :)), but it’s nothing new.</p>

[CornellPerson]

<p>Why should ND be above Cornell again? I’m not saying it shouldn’t but I’m curious as to your reasoning.</p>

[GoldOwl]

<p>Does anyone understand why MIT is behind UPenn, why Columbia is ahead of Stanford, or why Darmouth is always stuck in 11th?</p>

[UCBChemEGrad]

<p>kwu, your east coast bias is showing.</p>

[poste3]

<p>MIT is not a well rounded university, stanford undergrad is waay overrated</p>

[alam1]

<p>I hope these rankings are true. I can use it for propaganda purposes and claim Emory is the second best university in the South and simply cite USnews ranking. I would know that I’m not 100% right but clueless high school students wouldn’t.</p>

<p>poste: how is MIT not well rounded. Do some research</p>

[UCBChemEGrad]

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stanford undergrad is waay overrated

And Columbia’s and Harvard’s isn’t?!</p>

[Professor101]

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"stanford undergrad is waay overrated "</p>

<p>And Columbia’s and Harvard’s isn’t?!

They are not because they have higher SAT scores and graduation rates than Stanford. In their zeal not to become another Berkeley with 40% Asian, Stanford artificially lowers their SAT and as a result, their graduation rate is lower.</p>

<p>Stanford got what it deserves!</p>

[UCBChemEGrad]

<p>^ Haha!.. SAT scores and a few percentage points in graduation rates really define the undergraduate experience…:rolleyes:</p>

<p>“Chewie, take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive”</p>

[rjkofnovi]

<p>^^^Agreed. Who cares about overall academic quality anymore anyway?</p>

[Professor101]

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Haha!.. SAT scores and a few percentage points in graduation rates really define the undergraduate experience.

They don’t define the UG experience, but they are important, objective metrics.</p>

[Omega_Sanction]

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They are not because they have higher SAT scores and graduation rates than Stanford. In their zeal not to become another Berkeley with 40% Asian, Stanford artificially lowers their SAT and as a result, their graduation rate is lower.

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<p>Harvard is a different question, but while Columbia’s SAT scores are higher (by approximately 30 points) than Stanford’s, it’s not actually statistically significant of a difference.</p>

<p>Also, Stanford is more Asian than Columbia is. You really need to rethink your arguments.</p>

<p>Regarding graduation rates, I’m don’t have statistics on hand, though I would not be surprised if Stanford has a relatively low 4-year graduation rate due to people pursuing 5-year masters degrees. Columbia might have something similar.</p>