US News Rankings 2011

<p>At least I’m an American, and proud of it. That other countries may or may not have heard of USC, UCLA, Stanford, UVA, BC or BYU is of no concern to me and most other Yanks. And we certainly don’t care what the totalitarian communist regimes in Beijing and Hanoi think of us. As far as South Korea, the U.S. needs to pull its troops out immediately and stop babysitting them. South Korea is strong and rich enough (and has twice as many troops as its northern brother) to take care of itself. I respect the Japanese, however, who are probably already Nuke-ready in case the peninsula goes to war. But all of this is politics and really doesn’t belong on this board; so please stop focusing on what Asia thinks of American schools – *** cares???</p>

<p>Now, to the topic at hand, I am happy that USC has broken into the top 25 on the USN&WR, and joins several other California institutions as first-rate universities.</p>

<p>I do think, however, that the University of Washington is vastly underrated – Go UW! The UW campus is perhaps one of the most beautiful on the West Coast, and reminds me of Princeton.</p>

<p>sentimentGX4,</p>

<p>There is not contradictions at all. I mentioned the some store goods are cheap compared to China, and such, to dispute your absurd claim that few Chinese can afford plane tickets to America. Also, not very personal story is “anecdotal”. Some are representative and statistical meaningful. Try to distinguish those: your brother of sister-in-law of your next door neighbor told you he thinks UCLA is the best university; or an engineer I know working for GE bought plane tickets to Europe for his annual vacation. Which one is more telling.</p>

<p>I don’t want to waste my time to discuss with you “PPP”, “GDP”, and buying power. If you want to say China’s middle class doesn’t have a better life than a poverty family here, you go ahead. I am pretty sure you are still in high school without real world experience.</p>

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Neither, they’re both worthless. Does the fact that he’s an engineer, or from GE make it more credible? What if my brother is a Harvard grad, his sister in law works on the street, and her next door neighbor is the CEO of a Fortune 500 company? Does that make it any more credible. worthless example imo</p>

<p>(15 million are out of work, another 9 million workers can only find part-time jobs & millions more have given up: greatest recession in modern times)
Sorry Tale of Chancellor’s Office UC Berkeley: easily grasped by the public, lost on University of California’s leadership. The UC Berkley budget gap has grown to $150 million, & still the Chancellor is spending money that isn’t there on $3,000,000 consultants. His reasons range from the need for impartiality to requiring the consultants “thinking, expertise, & new knowledge”.
Does this mean that the faculty & management of UC Berkeley – flagship campus of the greatest public system of higher education in the world - lack the knowledge, integrity, impartiality, innovation, skills to come up with solutions? Have they been fudging their research for years? The consultants will glean their recommendations from faculty interviews & the senior management that hired them; yet $ 150 million of inefficiencies and solutions could be found internally if the Chancellor & Provost Breslauer were doing the work of their jobs (This simple point is lost on UC’s leadership).<br>
The victims of this folly are Faculty and Students. $ 3 million consultant fees would be far better spent on students & faculty.
There can be only one conclusion as to why inefficiencies & solutions have not been forthcoming from faculty & staff: Chancellor Birgeneau has lost credibility & the trust of the faculty & Academic Senate leadership (C. Kutz, F. Doyle). Even if the faculty agrees with the consultants’ recommendations - disagreeing might put their jobs in jeopardy - the underlying problem of lost credibility & trust will remain.
Contact your representatives in Sacramento: tell them of the hefty self-serving $’s being spent by UC Berkeley Chancellor Birgeneau & Provost Breslauer.</p>

<p>It may be due to my poor English writing. My point is not who is more credible. It is assumed both statements are true. Then, the first one merely tells you who “thinks” what. Anyone is entitled to your own opinion, not matter you are a CEO or a high schooler. However, your opinion hardly represents a view held by all people in the region. The latter tells you who “did” what. Here, the “who” is an engineer working for a reputable tech company. Then, we are sure his income is representative of all people working in the same capacity. And those people happen to fall into the category of lower to middle class in China. The fact that this engineer has annual oversea vacations and can easily afford a ticket to America does tells you something.</p>

<p>Sadly the reason for this is because of a new system involving high school counselor rankings, and not for legitimate facts, such as the fact that I as a math major can’t enroll in a single math class my first quarter because they’re all full.</p>

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<p>I don’t understand what that has to do with USC and UCLA’s rankings? </p>

<p>I am sorry that you are unable to get into the classes you need to at UCLA, that’s really terrible.</p>

<p>But that has nothing to do with USC.</p>

<p>[National</a> University Rankings 2010 | Washington Monthly](<a href=“http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings_2010/national_university_rank.php]National”>http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings_2010/national_university_rank.php)</p>

<p>Just goes to show you how inaccurate rankings are. US News by far is the most accurate.</p>

<p><a href=“http://laist.com/2010/08/24/score_one_for_bruin_pride_ucla_rank.php[/url]”>http://laist.com/2010/08/24/score_one_for_bruin_pride_ucla_rank.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>In regards to the UCLA link above, I don’t think it’s really relevant to use those rankings. Those appear to be based on graduate programs (as UCSF is ranked), and I think most people here would agree that on the whole, UCLA’s graduate programs are stronger than USC’s graduate programs.</p>

<p>US News is based on undergrad though.</p>

<p>Based on those rankings UC-Riverside > Dartmouth. Yeah, it is not a very good measuring tool. Fail. Sorry.</p>

<p>first one: UC’s ranked at the top, some ivies not even in top ten? seems pretty biased to me.
also… syracuse ranked above princeton? LOL.</p>

<p>also… it’s not even a ranking based on academics. It’s “social mobility”, “research”, and “service”… of the three only research really matters, because I couldn’t care less which university is recruiting and graduating the most low-income students</p>

<p>Second one: UCSB at 32, Rice at 99? really?</p>

<p>Wow. Sorry, can’t take those rankings seriously at all.</p>

<p>A survey of the big corporations’ hiring managers may be a valuable indicator for the college ranking. Unfortunately, I am not aware of any ranking includes the hiring managers assessments.</p>