US Top College Ranking by enrolled students data

I looked at the enrolled students data from each college and came up with this chart.

I looked at the enrolled students data, not the admitted students data. So some scores may be different from what you know. Also, some schools that do not provide enrolled students data, I looked at previous trends and deduced the numbers from admitted students data.

Again, do not take this too seriously. It’s just for the numbers. There’s so much more to college admission than pure numbers. Enjoy

  1. Harvard 1470 - 1600. 81.6% yield
  2. MIT 1500 - 1570 75% yield
  3. Stanford 1420 - 1570 80% yield
  4. Yale 1440 - 1560 71% yield
  5. UChicago 1460 - 1550 68% yield
  6. Columbia 1460 - 1550 64% yield
  7. Princeton 1430-1560 68% yield
  8. UPenn 1420 - 1560 67% yield
  9. CalTech 1520 - 1570 40% yield
  10. Duke 1490 - 1570 53% yield
  11. Johns Hopkins 1480 - 1560 47% yield
  12. Brown 1405 - 1570 60% yield
  13. Rice 1460 - 1550 41% yield
  14. WashU 1470-1570 38% yield
  15. Notre Dame 1410 - 1540 57% yield
  16. Cornell 1390 - 1540 68% yield
  17. Northwestern 1360 - 1540 56% yield
  18. Vanderbilt 1400 - 1540 46% yield
  19. Dartmouth 1360 - 1550 52% yield
  20. Georgetown 1350 - 1520 48% yield
  21. UCB 1340 - 1530 46% yield
  22. USC 1300 - 1500 55% yield
  23. UCLA N/A (assuming 1300~1500) 37% yield
  24. UVA N/A (assuming 1280 - 1490) 40% yield
  25. Emory N/A (assuming 1330 - 1520) 28% yield
  26. CMU N/A (assuming 1360 - 1500) 29% yield

You appear to have ranked these schools by, with quite a few exceptions, their SAT profiles (though it’s conceivable that your method considered yield as well). However, you seem to have screened out schools that would have placed more highly by these criteria than some of those you included.

which schools are you talking about?

This analysis, though it relied on an earlier version of the SAT, considered a full range of colleges: https://amp.businessinsider.com/the-610-smartest-colleges-in-america-2015-9.

I looked at both SAT score and yield rate. CalTech has the highest SAT score but its yield rate is about the same as UVA. Also, I omitted LAC because their applicants pool is totally different from that of universities

Whether true or false, this opinion resulted in a ranking without particular distinction in terms of the purported criteria.

It appears that several universities have not been considered either. Where would Tufts fall, for example, under this methodology?

LMAO then why don’t you ask USNEWS about why they don’t include LAC’s in their national university rankings

U.S. News clearly states its methodology within its own pages. For this reason, I’d have little reason to inquire further. In your case, however, your ranking would have benefited from a thread title and notations that comported with its inclusions.

Not incidentally, I regard LMAO as disrespectful in this context.

All ratings have objective and subjective components. Nobody should have a problem with how US News rates universities unless you believe that they are using bad data or taking poor samples of expert opinion. Also, anyone making a decision based on whether a school is #15 or #25 (as opposed to fit) is misguided. As some of the data relating to resources would negatively impact the LACs, it doesn’t make much sense to rank them with the national universities. If you’re looking for a pure “prestige” ranking, maybe someone can come up with prestige rankings. After all, that’s all many here really care about anyway.

What is your criteria? Why is yield a factor?

What is this? If that is SAT scores then this data is wrong. And most schools have not released the class of 2022 data yet.

Throw any type of ranking out there and the spears come flying…

@JohnHopey - your SAT ranges are incorrect. For instance, Duke’s is 1390 to 1580 and Northwestern’s is 1420 to 1560. But more importantly, the majority of students are submitting ACT scores. Even at Duke, it is 70% for ACT and 30% for SAT.

Duke’s Common Data Set
https://public.tableau.com/profile/duke.university.office.of.institutional.research#!/vizhome/CommonDataSet/CommonDataSet

Northwestern’s Common Data Set
https://enrollment.northwestern.edu/pdf/common-data/2017-18.pdf

@CU123
But if you’re going to make a ranking you can at least have correct data.

I don’t think it’s spears, the criticism is valid, reasonable, - old data, missing data which means assumptions, no use of ACT in schools where that’s the majority of applicants. These are flaws, not spears.

The above composite scores are inaccurate and/or outdated.

It is very difficult to make an accurate comparison of composite SAT scores because most schools do not report a composite in their class profiles and the CDS only includes section scores, no composite for SAT. Adding 75th percentile section scores together does not yield an accurate 75th composite because many students have one section score higher than the other.

@merc81 In August 2018, “Business Insider” released an updated version of the “smartest colleges” list that you provided a link to.

The data for several of these universities is incorrect by a substantial margin.

As noted above by another poster, Northwestern’s numbers are much higher & Duke’s are lower. I suspect that the numbers for JHU are incorrect as well.

Here is the link for the updated list from Business Insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-smartest-colleges-in-america-2016-10#5-yale-university-average-sat-1498-47

Howard Gardner, a developmental psychologist most well known for his theory of multiple intelligence, would flinch at such ranking as “Smartest Collges in America” entirely based on the average SAT scores. Gardner’s theory of multiple intelligence was partially responsible for why so many colleges have now adopted the “holistic” admissions policies today. If HYPS want to vie for the top spot in such ranking all based on the average SAT score, they can easily overthrow Caltech and MIT from the top perch any day. Such ranking is silly at best, as is the OP’s ranking based on average SAT scores and yield rates. Yield rate simply means the school is popular, that’s all. What does popularity has anything to do with the school’s overall educational quality? Harvard of course enjoys the perennial popularity based on the global prestige and name recognition. Stanford is popular based on its unique combination of academic and sports excellence. If Caltech is the “smartest college,” it certainly isn’t all that popular given its rather low yield rate. But then, so what? What’s the point of all these rankings, the world rankings, USNWR, Forbes, Money Magazine, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.? Sure, they’re all entertaining, and I like to take a look at them when I’m sitting on my toilet.