<p>For undergraduate Business Administration.</p>
<p>It seems to me that us California Community College Students who want to major in Business Admin (and look at majoring in Econ or BusEcon as kind of a second choice) have to chose between these two schools when dealing with 'prestige'.</p>
<p>So I'm wondering what some of your thoughts are on this?</p>
<p>For sake of discussion lets keep it between these two schools and leave out state schools and UC Riverside.</p>
<p>Both are good schools, but Haas is targeted more by PE/VC/IB, though not as much as other schools</p>
<p>I also hear a lot about USC having a better network(not only in socal, but all over the country) but I have no data to back that up.</p>
<p>Haas>Marshall </p>
<p>I actually applied to both, and was planning on attending either one. However, I rescinded my apps and decided to reapply as an econ major for fall 2010. Don’t get fixated on you have to major in BA to do business. BA is a joke major. Get a real major like econ, math, engineering, physics, etc. You will become smarter and more marketable. I mean just look at the haas curriculum; now compare that to economics. Anyways, both schools are great. However, I would definitely not get fixated on BA or the school. MBA is the real $$$ degree.</p>
<p>^^^^</p>
<p>That’s why I am doing Econ compared to Business Administration. Econ just seems to be more intellectually challenging so it’s got to be the better degree to go for right?</p>
<p>Haas >>>> Marshall but Riverside excels over both of them easilyyy.</p>
<p>@cooldude6 econ is also considered to be more specialized than business, so in turn you would end up with a more specialized degree, and as an econ major you should know how much specialization helps in the job market</p>
<p>I go to Berkeley, and Haas is one of the best business schools in the whole world. I think it depends on what you want to do. Most of the better Haas students plan on getting an MBA, and I think Haas is a better place to go if you think you can succeed and want to go to a great graduate school, however, I would say if you want to go straight into the workforce go to Marshall, as USC has excellent connections.</p>
<p>They are both excellent business schools, but as a Berkeley student, I have to say go, Haas, go!</p>
<p>How important is a good football team to you?</p>
<p>To the posters saying Econ > Business Admin.</p>
<p>I have heard arguments to the contrary. </p>
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<li><p>Economics is a lot more theoretical than practical. And in that sense Business Admin is way more versatile.</p></li>
<li><p>When it comes to Bachelor degrees, a Bachelors in Econ doesn’t bring home the bacon. Most good jobs are reserved for Master level in Economics. While a B.S from a good undergrad Business school could (emphasis on could) be all you need if you don’t plan to MBA.</p></li>
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<p>These are not my opinions, since if I had a solid opinion I wouldn’t have started this thread. So what do you guys think about those points?</p>
<p>To the other poster, a good football team isn’t much to me. But a good social life is, and I have heard Berkeley can be a little depressing. But again, academics > social life when it comes to colleges. I live in Sacramento and I’m in and out of the Bay Area a lot, I feel pretty confident I can have a social life outside of school.</p>
<p>I found my economics classes to be alot more interesting than my business and accounting classes. It seems to me, economics combines both quantitative and qualitative analytical skills, while business admin seems to focus more on qualitative side of things. I personally enjoy math, and want to see how economics utilize mathmematics in areas like business, finance, marketing…etc. But that’s just my two-cent.</p>
<p>I guess I’m one of those people that don’t think that far ahead: future job prospects, careers… etc. Right now, I just hope to pursue what interests me.</p>
<p>Riverside is better than both Haas and Marshall. However if I had the choice, I would attend UCI’s Merage business school. It is named after the father of the modern Hot Pocket microwavable pastry. The heritage behind Merage is legendary!</p>
<p>Yeah, the hot pocket prestige was tempting.</p>
<p>Is your whole post a joke, or do you really prefer Riverside over Haas and Marshall.</p>
<p>I think the logic behind that would be interesting.</p>
<p>^well riverside would be a lot less competitive.</p>
<p>^As would be Sac State.</p>
<p>Is USC a hard school to transfer in? I know its a good school, and a private, but I feel like with the economy the way it is maybe their situation might loosen up?</p>
<p>^ i was talking to a rep from USC, and he said that u usually arent even considered if you dont have atleast 3.5 but thats for consideration, u need a much higher GPA to be competitive (~3.8 - 3.9), and it has more GE requirements, that than the UCs, but then again so does Haas, you should go to their transfer artculation page, and find out what u need to take. Then theres the hassle of more essays, letters of rec, etc.</p>
<p>I applied to both for Fall 2010. USC only requires some accounting courses and 1 sociologoy course. If you applied to Haas or other UCs, applying to Marshall is not that difficult. Most of the curriculum is pretty much the same. Marshall doesn’t even have a language requirement and LORs are not required for USC transfers. </p>
<p>As for the Econ > Business Admin debate, don’t be ridiculous. It seems like most of the people here don’t know what the difference between econ and business is. So to simply clarify this mystery, i’ll just say this, Econ IS NOT business. If you like studying decision-making habits on the micro level, or studying the fluctuations of domestics and global economies…then go ahead and major in econ. It is only ONE aspect of business, such as accounting, management, advertising, marketing…everyone who applied for Cal’s econ program, GET REAL. The truth is the most econ applicants are just too scared to apply to Haas and feel they’re going to get rejected. Even if i get rejected, at least i’ll know that i actually TRIED to get into one of the nation’s best undergrad b-schools w/o making excuses. </p>
<p>USC and Cal are my top 2 choices for undergrad. But for me, USC>Cal. The main reason why I would choose USC over Cal is the networking. I don’t think Cal can match the type of close and supportive community that the Trojan Family offers. I would also prefer living/studying/working/networking in LA over N. Cal. USC also gives me the freedom to concentrate in one particular discipline—I would probably choose Business Communications, Business Economics, or Strategic Management—whereas Cal forces me to just follow their strict curriculum. I would choose USC over Cal if money wasn’t a factor, but that’s not the way it works. So when it comes to the end, I would probably only go to USC if they offer a pretty generous scholarship/financial aid package and it’s cheaper to go there than Berkeley.</p>
<p>off topic from the thread but i just figured like saying something…i’m with girlyshout in that i do whatever interests me, which is mainly econ, though bio and business (i agree with lakerforever that econ and biz are very different disciplines) are a close 2nd a 3rd so i decided to double major, since i can’t meet bio requirements in 1 year i ended up applying haas with the hope of doubling in business and econ, and since i probably won’t get in, next year i’ll try to double in bio and econ :]</p>
<p>i also agree with the others who say haas>marshall (though i’ve never actually been to usc so it has a pretty big disadvantage in my opinion since i don’t have a feel for it)</p>
<p>“everyone who applied for Cal’s econ program, GET REAL. The truth is the most econ applicants are just too scared to apply to Haas and feel they’re going to get rejected. Even if i get rejected, at least i’ll know that i actually TRIED to get into one of the nation’s best undergrad b-schools w/o making excuses.”</p>
<p>This made me laugh out loud, really. Haas is a great, a wonderful, business program. If you want to major in business, I agree with you: don’t be a wussy; apply to Haas. That is what I did. However, I did my homework–thank god–and decided it was not right for me. You’ll probably get in and find it easy, which is why I rescinded: it is too easy. I felt like I would not learn anything challenging. My friend is there and he said it is stupidly easy-save me from that. I want to learn something.</p>
<p>Also, if one’s passion is in economics then your statement is a complete fallacy; using that logic, we might as well major in the easiest one. I would argue that a lot economics majors do it for the passion; I bet only a few chicken out like you said. The difficulty of Haas is overrated; maybe if your FOB it is harder (which seems to be most prospective Haas students). As a California community college student, I find it competitive but not to the degree of your claim. If you look at Haas’s real statistics, they are not bad; they are similar to the rest of the school and other “elite” institutions. </p>
<p>And I respect your honesty “:Even if i get rejected, at least i’ll know that i actually TRIED to get into one of the nation’s best undergrad b-schools w/o making excuses.” </p>
<p>Also:</p>
<p>“Econ IS NOT business. If you like studying decision-making habits on the micro level, or studying the fluctuations of domestics and global economies…then go ahead and major in econ. It is only ONE aspect of business, such as accounting, management, advertising, marketing…”</p>
<p>Excuse me sir, economics is not just one aspect of business. Business relies heavily on economics. Economics encompasses all aspects of business. I hope when you major in business you learn more about economics.</p>
<p>“The main reason why I would choose USC over Cal is the networking. I dont think Cal can match the type of close and supportive community that the Trojan Family offers.”</p>
<p>I heard a lot of Marshall students are jobless or working at Enterprise for $10/hr. And I heard this from someone who works at USC. So don’t count on that alumni too much! Making the same $$$ and paying half as much for tuition gives you a greater ROI.</p>
<p>" econ is also considered to be more specialized than business, so in turn you would end up with a more specialized degree, and as an econ major you should know how much specialization helps in the job market"</p>
<p>I would argue that economics is not specialized. It is very broad and theoretical. Combine economics with some business classes and you will be a very strong candidate. </p>
<p>@cooldude6</p>
<p>You should not just do it for the challenge, but also for the interest. I find I incorporate economics in my daily life. I believe economics opens more doors for you. Like I said, MBA is the $$$ degree.</p>
<p>“1. Economics is a lot more theoretical than practical. And in that sense Business Admin is way more versatile.”</p>
<p>It is both theoretical than practical. but would you rather have a thinker working for you? To understand how people, markets work? A lot of successful traders are economics majors. Yes, business admin is way more practical, but it is also a dime a dozen major. You should see how many business majors I tutor. :)</p>
<p>“2. When it comes to Bachelor degrees, a Bachelors in Econ doesn’t bring home the bacon. Most good jobs are reserved for Master level in Economics. While a B.S from a good undergrad Business school could (emphasis on could) be all you need if you don’t plan to MBA.” </p>
<p>Completely wrong. Economics majors are one of the highest paid out of undergraduate. I’m too lazy to get the easy facts floating around on the internet; just do a simple google search. Most CEO’s prefer economics majors. You are right about research jobs: you need a ms or phd. </p>
<p>“To the other poster, a good football team isn’t much to me. But a good social life is, and I have heard Berkeley can be a little depressing. But again, academics > social life when it comes to colleges. I live in Sacramento and I’m in and out of the Bay Area a lot, I feel pretty confident I can have a social life outside of school.”</p>
<p>The only thing I don’t like about Berkeley is that I feel like a minority. Besides that, it is awesome. USC has the hottest girls and warm weather.</p>
<p>What type of jobs can we get if majoring economics and I do not want to be a school teacher. Thank you.</p>
<p>Do a simple search man. You can do practically anything you want. I am looking at being an analyst or something. I like finance. I also wouldn’t mind working at the federal reserve, world bank, cia, being a college professor, or working at a financial company. I might look into law school.</p>